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Re:There Probably Have Been Aliens by pklausler on Monday January 23, 2017 @12:40PM (#13463997)
One of the (to me) most mind-bending arguments about the absence of alien civilizations is the apparent absence of self-replicating interstellar probes. It wouldn't take much more of a tech civilization than we have to launch such a thing, and it would take only one launch event in all of galactic history to quickly and permanently permeate the galaxy with them. So where are they?
Re:There Probably Have Been Aliens by jmcmichael on Monday January 23, 2017 @12:53PM (#13464136)
> self-replicating interstellar probes

DNA

Re:There Probably Have Been Aliens by neaden on Monday January 23, 2017 @12:44PM (#13464034)
Yeah, Bracewell/Von Neuman probes[0]. You create an AI in a probe that can communicate in a variety of ways and replicate itself and send it off into space. IIRC it would conservatively take about a million years for a civilization to blanket the galaxy in them.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracewell_probe

Re:There Probably Have Been Aliens by pklausler on Monday January 23, 2017 @12:46PM (#13464056)
Communication seems to be optional.
Re:There Probably Have Been Aliens by jessaustin on Monday January 23, 2017 @12:52PM (#13464131)
It isn't obvious that communication by such "probes" would take place on a medium that we can currently sense. Which may be what you meant?
Re:There Probably Have Been Aliens by zingermc on Monday January 23, 2017 @01:23PM (#13464462)
Sounds like a good way to turn the galaxy into grey goo.
Re:There Probably Have Been Aliens by woofyman on Monday January 23, 2017 @01:04PM (#13464253)
Maybe there's a highly advanced predictor species that destroys other civilization before they reach that stage.
Re:There Probably Have Been Aliens by trhway on Monday January 23, 2017 @01:32PM (#13464544)
may be [hopefully] civilizations reach mental maturity preventing such pollution of their galactic neighborhood with self-replicating trash before being able to perform such pollution. "Morris worm" at galactic scale :)

With regards to aliens - i see the Bible as exactly historical document of such an unplanned/unauthorized contact by an alien observer gone rogue. Contains all elements, like medical nanobots, [food]replication, specific lessons that violence is the main obstacle of civilization development, blue light sterilizing the cave with decontamination workers in white overalls and some devices on their backs (angels :), etc... Hunt for the lost sample of the alien's DNA - Holy Grail- which also contains those nanobots.

Re:There Probably Have Been Aliens by logfromblammo on Monday January 23, 2017 @01:51PM (#13464768)
What percentage of launch-capable civilizations have their own cautionary fable equivalent to the Slylandro civilization in Star Control 2, or the grey goo of Engines of Creation?

The probes reached their replication limit, then went into hibernation when they phoned home, and subsequently failed to receive a reset signal. Or perhaps they simply propagate too slowly. Imagine if the Morris worm spread only half as fast as the growth of the Internet itself.