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Re:Lane Following Autopilot with Keras and Tensorflow by aub3bhat on Monday January 23, 2017 @11:40AM (#13463447)
You seem to be forgetting the entire vision pipeline that automatically extracts "lanes" and that information gets incorporated in an end to end manner requiring only true steering angles and nothing else. Its easy to comment but its not as straightforward or trivial as one might assume.
Re:Lane Following Autopilot with Keras and Tensorflow by webaba on Monday January 23, 2017 @12:56PM (#13464175)
Indeed, I was not really talking about the vision pipeline. But once you decouple the problem (use ML for vision, planning for the trajectory, controls for the rest), you'll get much more stability, guarantees and insight into how to improve your problem. These kinds of end-to-end approaches are very hard to evaluate, they have zero educational value, are not parsimonious and tend to reduce people's analytical skills.
Re:Lane Following Autopilot with Keras and Tensorflow by ogrisel on Monday January 23, 2017 @01:18PM (#13464403)
But to be able to decouple the vision pipeline you need a lot of manual annotation work which is tedious.
Re:Lane Following Autopilot with Keras and Tensorflow by argonaut on Monday January 23, 2017 @02:47PM (#13465287)
Tedious, and also solved for a decade already. Also, it's much easier to just find lanes using traditional CV and simply using annotators to verify the lane labels.
Re:Lane Following Autopilot with Keras and Tensorflow by gugagore on Monday January 23, 2017 @12:22PM (#13463827)
You can never use 1950s control theory to solve your problem? I think you didn't understand the my comment, so please let me clarify: I was claiming that even the control problems in this RC-car-lane-keeping domain can benefit from learning approaches.
Re:Lane Following Autopilot with Keras and Tensorflow by gugagore on Monday January 23, 2017 @12:17PM (#13463759)
Are you disagreeing with my comment? Or stating that I should have included additional points in my comment?

In any case I think I understand your comment, that in addition to the control problem, there's a perception problem.