Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by Karunamon on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:06PM
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And this would be a textbook example of an ad hominem fallacy.
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Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by CalChris on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:55PM
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Um, no. An ad hominem argument would be if I were attacking 551199's character which I'm not. Instead, 551199 cited D'Souza as a reliable source and I attacked D'Souza's character. See the difference? Good.
I am however, impeaching D'Souza's credibility as a source.
Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by Karunamon on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:58PM
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..based on political views you find odious, rather than directly attacking what you think is right or wrong about the particular (unrelated) statement in question. That is an ad hominem argument.
Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by CalChris on Sunday January 22, 2017 @09:05PM
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> ..based on political views you find odious
Well, I didn't know that a felony conviction or cheating on your wife were political views. However, given the current President, perhaps you're right.
Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by enraged_camel on Sunday January 22, 2017 @08:31PM
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Ad hominems are not always fallacious:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Non-fallacious_reas...
Specifically, pointing out the obviously biased nature of a source calls to question the credibility of said source, even before we get to addressing the argument itself.
Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by cmdrfred on Sunday January 22, 2017 @08:26PM
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I agree. Attack the argument not the arguer.
Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by CalChris on Sunday January 22, 2017 @09:00PM
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Again, the arguer was+is 551199 and I'm not attacking him. However, he did trot out the odious Dinesh D'Souza and I felt it necessary to put that cretin into his proper context. So I'm not attacking the arguer; I'm attacking his alternate facts.
Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by kelukelugames on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:24PM
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No, he got paid to speak about the importance of family and the evils of gay marriage.
Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by Karunamon on Sunday January 22, 2017 @06:34PM
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And this has what to do with the correctness or incorrectness of his analysis?
Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by woofyman on Sunday January 22, 2017 @07:09PM
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He makes a living being a partisan Republican. That means he can't be impartial.
Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by jungturk on Sunday January 22, 2017 @07:01PM
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Being able to practice what one preaches is a useful heuristic on how authentically one holds that position.
Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by Karunamon on Sunday January 22, 2017 @07:06PM
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..which is still a poor proxy for correctness or incorrectness.
Re:New Wyoming bill forbids utilities from using renewables
by kelukelugames on Sunday January 22, 2017 @07:57PM
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k, but the people who fired him for it disagree