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Re:San Francisco Asks: Where Have All the Children Gone? by drvdevd on Sunday January 22, 2017 @04:59AM (#13454494)
You just told me everything I needed to hear. Thank you.

[edit] being serious here -- I needed to read what you wrote.

Re:San Francisco Asks: Where Have All the Children Gone? by bonzini on Sunday January 22, 2017 @05:02AM (#13454500)
If you don't mind, in what sense? There are multiple ways to read your message.
Re:San Francisco Asks: Where Have All the Children Gone? by drvdevd on Sunday January 22, 2017 @05:05AM (#13454508)
Well, I was being somewhat vague to avoid inserting my own story into the thread too much, but I'm going to be a first-time parent soon and I'm living in the same town I've lived in most of my life, which I often get fed up with and daydream of moving away from.

OP just made me realize how lucky I am in my current situation, is all :)

[edit] I'll add I've spent enough time in SF too to know what OP is talking about quite well

Re:San Francisco Asks: Where Have All the Children Gone? by radicalbyte on Sunday January 22, 2017 @05:38AM (#13454590)
We bought a house across the road from the infants school (4 to 10) a decade ago. Later this year my boy starts. So glad we did that.

Having kids with two full-time working parents totally changes you. So much that it took 3 job changes to finally find the right balance - no more interesting startups, it's relatively boring web stuff as freelancer for me. It's worth sacrificing a little of my work pleasure for the simplicity and extra money.

Re:San Francisco Asks: Where Have All the Children Gone? by ekidd on Sunday January 22, 2017 @07:31AM (#13454899)
> Having kids with two full-time working parents totally changes you. So much that it took 3 job changes to finally find the right balance - no more interesting startups, it's relatively boring web stuff as freelancer for me.

You can still do interesting startups! But I would strongly recommend:

1. Startups which support remote work well. (If you can survive and thrive as a freelance consultant, you've got the discipline to make this work.)

2. Startups with enough money to pay you salary.

3. Startups where at least some of the cofounders have kids.

So no more pre-money startups in dubious makeshift "offices" in San Franciso run by brilliant and ambitious 23-year-olds, basically. I know, that spoils some of the fun, but it also reduces the outcome variance.

(I also wake up at 5am and start my working day very early, giving me more flexibility later in the day. It helps.)

Re:San Francisco Asks: Where Have All the Children Gone? by bonzini on Sunday January 22, 2017 @05:24AM (#13454556)
Good then! :-) Finding a job where I could work from home was my best life choice ever. My wife could keep her job (1 hour commute, but at least we live close to all four grandparents) and I have flexible hours so I can take the boys to school.