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Re:This Industry is Fucked (2015) by agounaris on Friday January 20, 2017 @05:58AM (#13442874)
This is irrelevant to the industry. And I feel offended by attacking the industry. Banking, retail, fashion, you will get such comments everywhere. A lot of men are jerks indeed but this is a social problem, not an industry one.
Re:This Industry is Fucked (2015) by agounaris on Friday January 20, 2017 @06:48PM (#13447887)
A small reply to all the comments.

Nope a social problem is by definition a social problem which by definition is applicable to all industries. Men will always want women and idiots will always treat women with disrespect no matter if they are programmers, doctors, footballers or dancers. You don't solve the problem by attacking the tech industry. It's a matter of education, mental health and society principles. I kinda of agree that you should start from somewhere, but this somewhere should be the schools and the family.

Re:This Industry is Fucked (2015) by toor2 on Friday January 20, 2017 @06:40AM (#13443095)
>Banking, retail, fashion, you will get such comments everywhere. A lot of men are jerks indeed but this is a social problem, not an industry one.

This is a moral equivalence fallacy, a red herring of sorts. You are saying this women's frustration with her industry is irrelevant to her industry because a handful of unrelated indusries have problems that could be similar.

This argument ignores that CS/IT is largely male and notorious are for this disgusting behavior. It's one of the only industries that had a greater percentage of women in the 80s than it does now. There are industries that do not suffer from this problem at all or nearly to the same degree.

In full, this women's expirence is directly related to overt mysogeny in industry culture and labeling it as a "social problem" willfully ignores this problem in tech thus perpetuating it further.

Re:This Industry is Fucked (2015) by FeepingCreature on Friday January 20, 2017 @06:50AM (#13443138)
Notoriety is not direct evidence. People can be notorious without being guilty. I don't know whether other fields with a similar proportion of men have similar problems.

Studies highly welcome. Hearsay somewhat less.

Re:This Industry is Fucked (2015) by toor2 on Friday January 20, 2017 @08:16AM (#13443544)
>Notoriety is not direct evidence. People can be notorious without being guilty.

This argument is a fallacy fallacy. Sure I made a unsubstantiated claim but it doesn't contradict or invalidate my general argument.

>I don't know weather other fields with a similar proportion of men have similar problems.

How is this relevant? I get the feeling that you read my comment looking for some insignificant hyperbole you could attack in order to derail my general argument to perpetuate your willful ignorance enabled by your male priveldge.

>Studies highly welcome

How about listening to the _women_ in tech like the one who wrote the blog post we are commenting on?

Re:This Industry is Fucked (2015) by fahadkhan on Friday January 20, 2017 @06:07AM (#13442931)
It being a social problem means that is also an industry problem, by definition.
Re:This Industry is Fucked (2015) by johnfn on Friday January 20, 2017 @06:08AM (#13442944)
So because the problem is bigger than the author implied, we shouldn't try to solve it?