News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Stepping into math: Open-sourcing our step-by-step solver by analog31 on Thursday January 19, 2017 @06:43PM (#13440507)
Because I can't edit my above post any more, I'll add it here: I marked it correct. I didn't feel like penalizing him for something that had never been taught.

Here's an idea for a better problem:

Solve the following:

x^3 = 27

y^3 = 21

z^4 = 85

My rationale is that there will be a huge time advantage for the student who works out the solutions by using roots, and a visual "hint" that there might be a general solution.

Re:Stepping into math: Open-sourcing our step-by-step solver by quickben on Thursday January 19, 2017 @07:20PM (#13440707)
At university, they forced us using logs to solve similar equations with extremely large exponents. Otherwise it's nigh impossible to calculate any answer with the allowed calculator.
Re:Stepping into math: Open-sourcing our step-by-step solver by analog31 on Thursday January 19, 2017 @07:50PM (#13440887)
I love it. Write numerically unstable problems, so they have to be solved symbolically.
Re:Stepping into math: Open-sourcing our step-by-step solver by NumberCruncher on Friday January 20, 2017 @08:07AM (#13443491)
Until the age of 18 we were not allowed to use a calculator in the exams, not even in physics. We had to solve everything simbolically. This rigorous teaching method resulted in a couple of gold and silver medals at the Internationale Mathematik-Olympiade. A couple of my former class mates are now profs on the MIT, Berkeley, God knows where.
Re:Stepping into math: Open-sourcing our step-by-step solver by analog31 on Friday January 20, 2017 @06:03PM (#13447682)
That was also the case when I was in school. It wasn't so much that calculators were prohibited, but that they were useless, because the problems were designed to be solved without one. That was still the case when I taught the college math class in 1997. One student asked me if they could use graphing calculators, and my response was: "You may use one, but I've seen the exams, and a calculator will be of no help."

But I'm of two minds about it. I love manipulating expressions by hand. It's a relaxing hobby. But it limits the choice of problems that can be solved, which in turn narrows the range of things that can be taught, and even creates a false sense of what is possible in math. And it doesn't reflect how math is used by most people, i.e., with a computer.

I'd rather incorporate more computers into the math curriculum, and maybe merge math and programming into a single subject.

Re:Stepping into math: Open-sourcing our step-by-step solver by NumberCruncher on Friday January 20, 2017 @07:56AM (#13443432)
The biggest advantage for the students would be if you would not split up math into algebra, calculus, etc. The equation

x^3 = 27 (calculating the volume of a cube)

is an application of the equation of

x^y = z (potentiate a number)

which is an application of the equation

f(x) = y (apply a function)

The solution is simply

x = f-inverse(y)

if f is invertible.

As this simple example shows math on high school level can not splitted up into geometry, algebra, calculus, etc. Understanding one of these areas helps to understand the others and vice versa. If you want to master one of them you have to master all of them at the same time, with the same speed, parallel.

Re:Stepping into math: Open-sourcing our step-by-step solver by yequalsx on Thursday January 19, 2017 @06:53PM (#13440555)
I was under the assumption that this was for a college algebra course and that the rational exponents had been covered. If it hadn't been taught then I would give credit. Indeed, I'd be impressed by such reasoning.