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Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by avar on Thursday January 19, 2017 @06:07PM (#13440316)
There's no need to do faster than light, or even all that fast. The diameter of the Milky Way is at most 200k light years, with technology we could develop today we could populate the entirety of it with generation ships in the span of less than 100 million years, which isn't all that big in the scale of the universe.
Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by mustacheemperor on Thursday January 19, 2017 @08:07PM (#13440959)
I read this, and about ideas like the Von Neumann probe[0] all the time, and it really fills my head with concrete to try and reconcile those ideas with the fact that we haven't found any signs of extraterrestrial life yet. If it's so feasible in a "short" time relative to the age of the universe, where are all the probes?

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-replicating_spacecraft#Vo...

Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by marktangotango on Thursday January 19, 2017 @09:19PM (#13441297)
That's exactly right, nuclear pulse propulsion is all you really need, and that was studied in the 60s with project Orion. The lack of probes is paradoxical i.e. Fermi's paradox (yuk yuk).
Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by r00fus on Thursday January 19, 2017 @08:44PM (#13441133)
A great book that explores this topic (and is pretty funny) is "We are Legion, We are Bob" [1].

Well that and Spin [2], which probably addresses your point - maybe they're out there and they're already messing with us?

Ultimately, whenever I think about Fermi's Paradox, I am reminded of xkcd [3]. Maybe we just can't tell they're right in front of us.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Are-Legion-Bob-Bobiverse-Book-ebook/d... [2] https://www.amazon.com/Spin-Robert-Charles-Wilson/dp/0765348... [3] https://xkcd.com/638/

Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by kobeya on Friday January 20, 2017 @12:29AM (#13441889)
Also Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds for a more sinister solution to the Fermi problem.
Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by breatheoften on Friday January 20, 2017 @12:49AM (#13441936)
The Three Body Problem trilogy (Cixin Liu) also proposes a fascinating (dark) explanation
Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by jrv on Thursday January 19, 2017 @08:39PM (#13441112)
If you read about this all the time, then you're probably also familiar with the Fermi Paradox and the possible explanations for it. 2016 may have given us a clue as to which one of them seems most likely.
Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by fuhrysteve on Thursday January 19, 2017 @09:12PM (#13441245)
Please elaborate? What did we learn in 2016?
Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by wishinghand on Thursday January 19, 2017 @09:25PM (#13441323)
There is a star we've observed between 1400 and 1500 light years away with odd, non-cyclical light fluctuations. It may be indicative of a megastructure being built or falling apart around a star.
Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by mustacheemperor on Friday January 20, 2017 @11:14AM (#13444796)
Unfortunately, I think a pulsar type situation is much more likely. There's many things that could potentially cause those fluctuations, especially considering our relative lack of knowledge about extrasolar space. In 1967 when we started detecting regular, precise bursts of EMR from deep space it looked a lot like aliens.
Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by ansible on Thursday January 19, 2017 @09:28PM (#13441345)
Software entities may experience reality a million times faster than we do now. Do you want to wait a quadrillion years to finish colonizing the galaxy? That is a really long time.

Also, if you okay more StarCraft, you won't be so relaxed about claiming unoccupied resources.

Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by TeMPOraL on Friday January 20, 2017 @06:35AM (#13443075)
> Also, if you okay more StarCraft, you won't be so relaxed about claiming unoccupied resources.

As long as you build your army fast enough to cover them, there's no problem, and you want to be the first to claim those resources.

Re:Quick, How Might the Alien Spacecraft Work? by ansible on Friday January 20, 2017 @07:38AM (#13443350)
Yes. That sentence you quoted makes more sense when you replace 'okay' with 'play'.

I do wonder why we exist at all. In that, why hasn't our solar system been consumed by someone else's resource collection process yet.

Maybe we are very lucky. Maybe intelligent life doesn't arise that often. Or maybe it typically self destructs by the time it gets to this point.