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Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by omginternets on Thursday January 19, 2017 @03:41AM (#13434151)
That's almost what he's saying, but the devil is in the details.

He's saying that within the Black community, there are fewer people who (for whatever reason) have the skills necessary to be a CRUD developer.

Reasons may include, but are not limited to:

- poverty and access to education

- cultural factors pertaining to the value of higher education

- cultural factors pertaining to the types of jobs that are valued (e.g.: perhaps Blacks take jobs that confer a certain status or that are seen as directly giving back to the community)

If this is true -- and I personally find it plausible -- then we would indeed expect blacks to be under-represented in software design.

tl;dr: Perhaps the bias in hiring is a reflection of a bias in competence. Perhaps Blacks are, on the whole, poorer candidates? If that's true, then the correct approach is to focus on education rather than punishing employers.

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by sangnoir on Thursday January 19, 2017 @08:16AM (#13435490)
So which of the reasons did you cite is responsible for their lack of success with the NBA?

Whether it was intended or not, OP was dog-whistling the genetics argument, which I do not buy.

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by omginternets on Thursday January 19, 2017 @01:17PM (#13438000)
>Whether it was intended or not, OP was dog-whistling the genetics argument, which I do not buy.

Again, no it wasn't, and even if it were it does not change the veracity of my (more nuanced) rendition.

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by sangnoir on Thursday January 19, 2017 @01:47PM (#13438335)
You are making a totally different argument - not refining OPs original one. If you think yours is a refinement of the same argument, then you could perhaps state which of your listed reasons explains OPs lack of success with the NBA?

For what it's worth - I do not disagree with your argument, but I do not think it adequately explains the situation.

OT: it's somewhat surreal for me to experience HN going all out for the status quo (regardless of subject). I just wanted to get that off my chest - carry on.

Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination by omginternets on Thursday January 19, 2017 @02:06PM (#13438542)
I'm clarifying what I'm 99.99% certain OP meant by his argument.