Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination
by sangnoir on Thursday January 19, 2017 @08:16AM
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So which of the reasons did you cite is responsible for their lack of success with the NBA?
Whether it was intended or not, OP was dog-whistling the genetics argument, which I do not buy.
Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination
by omginternets on Thursday January 19, 2017 @01:17PM
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>Whether it was intended or not, OP was dog-whistling the genetics argument, which I do not buy.
Again, no it wasn't, and even if it were it does not change the veracity of my (more nuanced) rendition.
Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination
by sangnoir on Thursday January 19, 2017 @01:47PM
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You are making a totally different argument - not refining OPs original one. If you think yours is a refinement of the same argument, then you could perhaps state which of your listed reasons explains OPs lack of success with the NBA?
For what it's worth - I do not disagree with your argument, but I do not think it adequately explains the situation.
OT: it's somewhat surreal for me to experience HN going all out for the status quo (regardless of subject). I just wanted to get that off my chest - carry on.
Re:U.S. sues Oracle, alleges salary and hiring discrimination
by omginternets on Thursday January 19, 2017 @02:06PM
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I'm clarifying what I'm 99.99% certain OP meant by his argument.
He's saying that within the Black community, there are fewer people who (for whatever reason) have the skills necessary to be a CRUD developer.
Reasons may include, but are not limited to:
- poverty and access to education
- cultural factors pertaining to the value of higher education
- cultural factors pertaining to the types of jobs that are valued (e.g.: perhaps Blacks take jobs that confer a certain status or that are seen as directly giving back to the community)
If this is true -- and I personally find it plausible -- then we would indeed expect blacks to be under-represented in software design.
tl;dr: Perhaps the bias in hiring is a reflection of a bias in competence. Perhaps Blacks are, on the whole, poorer candidates? If that's true, then the correct approach is to focus on education rather than punishing employers.