Re:Depression as hard on the heart as obesity and cholesterol
by hellofunk on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @07:50AM
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Are you trying those "magic truffles" in Amsterdam? I worry about such things in the commercial space as possibly being laced with other things, since they aren't really regulated. You found them helpful?
Re:Depression as hard on the heart as obesity and cholesterol
by Broken_Hippo on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @09:35AM
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That's the problem with the quasi-legal stuff in Amsterdam. Weird place in regulation, where only part of the process has much of anything. Really it is the similar with weed and hash, and somewhat similar to the regular illegal drug market - with the exception of selling this stuff to residents and tourists in a completely legal manner. It seems the pushback for lacing such things would be pretty severe in this case. The unfortunate reality of this stuff is that unless we have some of that regulation and legality in place, this particular risk will be there.
Helpful, yes. Preferred? No - LSD and little forest mushrooms are my preference. But most folks have to contend with legality of things, including myself, and these are a legal option.
Being pretty introspective on them, I giggled at myself and found myself quite clever. I remembered what it was like to be happy with myself and my thoughts. The downside - with the truffles anyway - was that while sobering up, I could feel the everyday worries and anxieties coming back. They were gone for a bit, and I hadn't even noticed. It sucked the first time, but the combination of it all was such that I could start making changes in things the very next day - partially because I remembered.
Medical professionals probably do say good things about it. But lets look at this closer: They probably say good things about medications too - because most people react well to it. This doesn't mean that it doesn't cause problems in a few people, nor that you will hear about it.
For me, it makes it so I'm angry. I'm unhappy with everyday life. I'm frustrated all the time and I dread the sessions. I've found some meditation styles that don't pick up the mindfulness and kept them up for a few months: but basically, I was sitting there being bored once a day and didn't have anything to show at the end for the work I had done. So I quit. I would certainly never do a retreat because I think I could be that person.
LSD (when I was younger) and other hallucinogens (now that I can vacation in Amsterdam) have, however, helped a great deal. More than meditation. You see, it seems to me that for meditation to work, you have to know how to produce some of these feelings - or at least recognize them in real time. You have to understand how to do what the stuff says. You have to be able to not beat yourself up for failing (which is difficult if you have perfectionist tendencies or some fear of failure). The other is more ... forced positive feelings, plus some altered thinking. Suddenly I remember what this is all like, and can take it to my daily life.