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Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by kafkaesq on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @09:28PM (#13423488)
Diplomacy is a lot less interesting and less nefarious than you seem to believe.

About 95% of it, yes. But if the other 5% were so profoundly uninteresting then people wouldn't be talking about how "embarrassing" and "damaging" it was to have it released.

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by gozur88 on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @10:27PM (#13423727)
This is a business about people. You can have information that's not "embarrassing" or "damaging" to the US that's both embarrassing and damaging to individuals in other countries.

Again, there's a practical side here. As I asked in another post, just how much would you share with a friend or family member that was going to immediately run to publish what you said in a Facebook post? Because that's essentially what Manning did.

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by kafkaesq on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @02:55PM (#13429716)
Because that's essentially what Manning did.

No, that's not what she did. She gave the archive to a third party (Assange) who turned out to be unreliable. But that's not "the same" -- or even "essentially" the same -- as just outright posting it on Facebook.

Can we just end the discussion there, please? I'm not saying this issue is cut-and-dried, or that there's no validity in your arguments. But if we keep going back and forth about the basic event chronology, then there's really not much a of a point.

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by gozur88 on Thursday January 19, 2017 @04:12PM (#13439540)
>No, that's not what she did. She gave the archive to a third party (Assange) who turned out to be unreliable. But that's not "the same" -- or even "essentially" the same -- as just outright posting it on Facebook.

Yes it is. Once it's there on the internet, people are linking to it, and it's a topic of discussion, anything that gets you into any kind of trouble is out there for people to see.

>Can we just end the discussion there, please? I'm not saying this issue is cut-and-dried, or that there's no validity in your arguments. But if we keep going back and forth about the basic event chronology, then there's really not much a of a point.

If you're really intent on ending a conversation, try not attempting to slip in the last word.

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by kafkaesq on Thursday January 19, 2017 @08:19PM (#13441015)
If you're really intent on ending a conversation, try not attempting to slip in the last word.

Sounds eminently reasonable. It's all yours, then.