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Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by l33tbro on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @06:12PM (#13422411)
Could you please elaborate on this? I recently had dinner with a friend in intelligence, who was trying to convince me that Snowden was in bed with Russia from the get-go, and that the 90% of the leak had nothing to do with privacy concerns.

I took his opinions with a grain of salt given his background, but also couldn't refute due to being relatively unfamiliar with the Snowden saga.

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by danenania on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @09:20PM (#13423458)
Every bit of the leak was about mass surveillance--how could it not have to do with privacy concerns?

The "in bed with Russia" thing is just a smear. No one has produced any evidence of this, and it's really hard to make it match up with how everything unfolded.

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by SilasX on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @03:53AM (#13425008)
And if someone did produce such evidence, they would be obligated to ask for that very same person's arrest for the breach of trust involved in such wistleblowing!
Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by EdHominem on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @03:18AM (#13424907)
Your friend is full of shit. If they knew anything real they wouldn't be allowed to tell you.

The biggest clue that what your friend says is wrong that Snowden wouldn't have gone public and announced himself if he was spying for Russia.

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by sintaxi on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:00AM (#13424086)
Good grief, Your friend actually said that with a straight face?
Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by l33tbro on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @01:10AM (#13424433)
Perhaps attributed to the infamous Upton Sinclair quote:

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by rudolf0 on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @10:51AM (#13427176)
Russia was one of his last choices as a refuge; they were just one of the only countries to accept him.

I doubt he's fond of Russia, either, and he's made some passive-aggressive jabs at them on his Twitter.

That said, it can't be ruled out that he divulged even more secret information to Russia's intelligence services as a condition for asylum, but I don't think there's any evidence it was one of his motives when leaking.

Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by TheCoelacanth on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:55PM (#13428500)
He wasn't even trying to stay in Russia. He was just traveling through on his way to Ecuador but he got stuck there because the US revoked his passport.
Re:Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence by hendersoon on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @11:06AM (#13427334)
That is the consensus of US intelligence, yeah, but they have no actual proof. Basically it's his word against their hypothesis.

Do you really believe Snowden was a double-agent, or that he was a conscientious whistle-blower? That's what it comes down to.