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Re:At Davos, IBM Chief Predicts Artificial Intelligence Won’... by cjlars on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @03:20PM (#13420794)
> The day will come when machine productivity dwarfs that of humans by orders of magnitude

It already does. Have you tried to build a house without power tools?

Strong-form, self perpetuating, Terminator style AI has not even been invented yet and you're jumping to the closing chapters.

Re:At Davos, IBM Chief Predicts Artificial Intelligence Won’... by Florin_Andrei on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @03:42PM (#13420996)
It doesn't have to be that way.

All you need is a bit of advance in robotics, coupled with stronger AI.

Perhaps a proper AGI is not even required for that. Just good enough multipurpose ANI combos.

Re:At Davos, IBM Chief Predicts Artificial Intelligence Won’... by Retric on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @03:41PM (#13420994)
I don't think several orders of magnitude is really true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P73REgj-3UE is slower than a modern house, but not that slow. Further, with just hand tools the Amish where known for raising a barn in one day.

Re:At Davos, IBM Chief Predicts Artificial Intelligence Won’... by cjlars on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @04:15PM (#13421278)
I don't think the specific example matters. Obviously, you couldn't build a skyscraper without machinery or fly through the air in a metal tube. I'll grant that the US middle class is only 2 orders of magnitude above subsistence (~$2 / day) living.
Re:At Davos, IBM Chief Predicts Artificial Intelligence Won’... by euyyn on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @04:00PM (#13421140)
Did they build those hand tools by hand? Honest question.
Re:At Davos, IBM Chief Predicts Artificial Intelligence Won’... by unclenoriega on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @05:08PM (#13421887)
Some do this, but (most?) Amish can definitely buy industrially-produced tools. Some even use (non-electric) power tools: http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2013/02/22/172626089/insid...
Re:At Davos, IBM Chief Predicts Artificial Intelligence Won’... by vorotato on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @04:38PM (#13421529)
They're amish they build everything by hand
Re:At Davos, IBM Chief Predicts Artificial Intelligence Won’... by unclenoriega on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @05:04PM (#13421841)
Amish restrictions on technologies aren't absolute. They can buy things from "English" companies. Some of them even use mobile phones.[0]

[0] http://amishamerica.com/do-amish-use-telephones/

Re:At Davos, IBM Chief Predicts Artificial Intelligence Won’... by euyyn on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @04:59PM (#13421786)
As in, they won't buy a hammer from the town down the road? Instead they'll cast the metal head, and chop the wood for the handle? Mine their own metal ore? It can't go all the way through.
Re:At Davos, IBM Chief Predicts Artificial Intelligence Won’... by briholt on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @03:26PM (#13420847)
This is a discussion about closing chapters isn't it? Are we merely disputing the date on which a billion power screwdrivers can direct themselves and then Instagram pics of their accomplishments? I give it 50-150 years.
Re:At Davos, IBM Chief Predicts Artificial Intelligence Won’... by cjlars on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @04:05PM (#13421176)
No. We're (or I, at least, am) debating whether the concept of 'new job' continues to exist.