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Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by coldtea on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:08AM (#13417112)
>It's not some bureaucrat's plan. It's for real.

Actually it was a bureaucratic plan all along, and badly managed.

And you still can have great access to the same 320 million market even outside of it (like e.g. China or Japan have) -- with the extra benefit that you don't have a German-controlled ECB to impose you rules and monetary policy.

Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by gotchange on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:12AM (#13417153)
> you don't have a German-controlled ECB to impose you rules and monetary policy.

The UK had its own currency and central bank from the get go. What are you're referring to exactly here?

Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by raverbashing on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:26AM (#13417268)
It's funny how Brexiter arguments usually come from the same collection of "misunderstandings" and lies
Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by YeGoblynQueenne on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:17AM (#13417190)
What double standards! So, trade tariffs and custom agreements: bureaucracy; restrictions on free movement [1] - that's just the will of the people!

Populism is going to cost the UK dearly. And not just in terms of money. The UK is heading headlong into a kind of society taken straight out of the pages of "V for Vendetta".

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[1] "Controls on immigration"

Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by andybak on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:19AM (#13417212)
> The UK is heading headlong into a kind of society taken straight out of the pages of "V for Vendetta".

I call "Godwin by Proxy".

There's many reasons to fear current trends but it's a touch premature to predict we're about to become a fascist dictatorship.

Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by gpderetta on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @09:14AM (#13417634)
"funnily enough" [1], it seems the only obstacle to government mass surveillance and privacy invasion in UK is the ECJ...

[1] as in, not funny at all

Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by YeGoblynQueenne on Wednesday January 18, 2017 @12:05AM (#13424117)
What gpderetta said, and also Teresa May pushed aggressively for RIPA, and has spoken about getting out of the jurisdiction of the ECHR.
Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by tornadoboy55 on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:18AM (#13417202)
> And you still can have great access to the same 320 million market even outside of it (like e.g. China or Japan have) -- with the extra benefit that you don't have a German-controlled ECB to impose you rules and monetary policy.

Yes, but if you are officially retailing in the EU you are obliged to adhere to EU warranty regulations, to EU safety regulations (flame retardation etc.), you must charge VAT (and pay it to the EU), etc. etc.

Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by tmalsburg2 on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:14AM (#13417163)
That's very optimistic thinking. First, Japan and China are both more heavyweight economically than the UK, and second, the EU will want to set a precedent: If you leave, it's gonna be painful. They really don't have another choice.
Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by iaskwhy on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:11AM (#13417137)
Any examples of monetary policies imposed by the ECB on the BoE? Given the different currency, I'm curious about it.
Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by notahacker on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @09:00AM (#13417528)
I understand there are a few arcane rules concerning the BoE not being allowed to purchase govt bonds directly from the govt. But that's not what most people would understand by control of monetary policy.

Similarly with fiscal policy, whilst the UK is supposed to "endeavour" to follow the Stability and Growth Pact rules on keeping deficits down, it can and does cheerfully ignore those rules without risk of penalty.

Re:Theresa May: UK must leave European single market by chki on Tuesday January 17, 2017 @08:17AM (#13417191)
"you still can have great access" Well, that is quite a statement considering what has been the tenor of EU officials thus far. And keep in mind that the only chance for Europe to keep the freedom of movement will probably be to make it extraordinarily difficult for Great Britain to get access to the free market. It does not really stand up for debate that Britain's economy will suffer quite a bit, and less rules by the EACH will not make up for that.