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Re:Coinbase and the IRS by aminok on Sunday January 15, 2017 @03:50AM (#13403095)
Consent doesn't 51% of people get to decide for 100% of people what to do. Majority-rule does not make state action consensual. Your politics is shallow and inhuman.
Re:Coinbase and the IRS by tezza on Sunday January 15, 2017 @04:07AM (#13403152)
That's a sub form of democracy called Majoritarianism.

lots of decision making needs higher standards, often watered down later

Conviction for Murder 12 unanimous peers - watered down to 11 of 12 in some places

Constitutional changes - 2/3 majority required in many jurisdictions

As a side note this is why the Brexit result was so devastating, the brexit side won by only a little however the support for being governed by the EU was only 48% .... this needed to be 66% or more for EU rule to be truly accepted

Re:Coinbase and the IRS by pitaj on Sunday January 15, 2017 @04:15AM (#13403180)
Consent doesn't happen at anything but unanimous consent in a group. If you decide to vote, the decision to vote must be unanimous. There needs to be a consent on every individual level in order for consent to occur in the collective level. Otherwise a room of wolves can eat the sheep.
Re:Coinbase and the IRS by sokoloff on Sunday January 15, 2017 @09:30AM (#13404108)
Play that out a little bit and tell us how you get a functioning government [or collective society over 100K people] as a result.

"I didn't agree to that parking fine; I park where I damn well please."

"I didn't agree to not put rat poison on the food I sold."

"I didn't agree that John and Jane Doe owned that house."

"I didn't agree that we have a medical licensing board to determine qualifications for doctors/surgeons."

"I initially agreed to pay for that, but I now revoke my consent and don't wish to be bound by that earlier consent. I did not agree to recognize your courts as valid and able to enforce that civil agreement."

Re:Coinbase and the IRS by icebraining on Sunday January 15, 2017 @03:52PM (#13406330)
That's not a rebuttal against the argument. If you have a chicken and call it a bull, and I say "that's not a bull, those have horns, tails, etc", saying "well, try getting eggs from that" doesn't prove that chickens are actually bulls.
Re:Coinbase and the IRS by sokoloff on Sunday January 15, 2017 @04:46PM (#13406560)
I'm claiming that a unanimous consent ideal is utterly unworkable at the scale that even a city government needs to work at, let alone state or federal government.

If the argument against a mostly functional existing government is that "not everyone consented unanimously and willingly", I think the claim that to require such makes things less functional is an in-bounds claim. You can argue that I'm wrong, but you will have a hard time convincing me that my claim was non-responsive.

Re:Coinbase and the IRS by aminok on Sunday January 15, 2017 @08:05PM (#13407557)
Not all things need consent. You don't need the consent of someone violating other people's rights to punish them. You don't need the consent of 100% of the citizenry to make a decision on how to expend public funds. You do need someone's consent to take private income from them. Income taxation is wrong for that reason.