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Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by FabHK on Saturday January 14, 2017 @07:58PM (#13401665)
I liked Gruber's take [1], commenting on the NYT interview [2]:

"Peter Thiel may well be smart, but he’s also dangerously foolish and solipsistic. You have to be a reckless fool to be that smart and get into any car without wearing a seatbelt, let alone a McLaren being driven by a daredevil like Musk."

[1] http://daringfireball.net/linked/2017/01/12/dowd-thiel

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/fashion/peter-thiel-donal...

Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by ComradeTaco on Saturday January 14, 2017 @08:23PM (#13401770)
I'd argue he's dangerous period:

"Most importantly, I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible ... The 1920s were the last decade in American history during which one could be genuinely optimistic about politics. Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of "capitalist democracy" into an oxymoron."[1]"https://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/educatio...

Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by ikeboy on Saturday January 14, 2017 @08:07PM (#13401699)
That story doesn't reflect too well on Musk either.

Based on the rest of the article, I get the feeling Thiel is trolling because he can, and I wouldn't take his stories at face value: that said, making up stories involving other people isn't usually advisable. It may very well be exaggerated, though?

Edit: I didn't know the story had been mentioned previously, I take back my skepticism regarding that.

Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by conistonwater on Saturday January 14, 2017 @08:10PM (#13401712)
> I get the feeling Thiel is trolling because he can

That's a kind of a strange road to go down, isn't it? I think usually the whole argue-in-good-faith thing, together with the principle of charity, require you to assume people mean what they say.

Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by ikeboy on Saturday January 14, 2017 @08:22PM (#13401765)
If you really mean that maybe more corruption/conflicts of interests are needed, you're going to need to spend more time arguing for that than a couple of paragraphs in a nytimes profile.
Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by Gargoyle on Saturday January 14, 2017 @10:27PM (#13402130)
A different view on his corruption statement.

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2017/01/bor...

' If you would like a “left wing example,” had the fiscal stimulus been twice as large, corruption in government probably would have been higher too (pointing out “the stimulus wasn’t very corrupt” is missing the point and in fact is a sign that you are a rampant mood affiliator, determined to restore the mood you feel is just, rather than tracing the analytic point at hand). In other words, Peter’s point is entirely defensible and probably correct. He’s not saying that “corruption is good.”'

Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by trsohmers on Saturday January 14, 2017 @08:11PM (#13401717)
It's a true story, and both Thiel and Musk have been saying it the same way for over 15 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOI8GWoMF4M
Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by ikeboy on Saturday January 14, 2017 @08:13PM (#13401729)
I wasn't aware there was a history, I take back any skepticism on that.
Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by kenshaw on Saturday January 14, 2017 @10:11PM (#13402086)
When it's politics, it's not "trolling" -- it's sampling the constituency's appetite for the candidate, and getting early testing poll / focus group data feedback for free.
Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by ikeboy on Saturday January 14, 2017 @10:22PM (#13402119)
Interesting, but there are some things you can't take back, although recent events may suggest otherwise.
Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by noobermin on Saturday January 14, 2017 @08:11PM (#13401722)
Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by mcbits on Saturday January 14, 2017 @08:14PM (#13401741)
What do people mean when they say someone is solipsistic? I know what solipsism is, but it never fits the context. Is it just a way of saying narcissistic without getting sidetracked by medical definitions? ('cuz using terms from philosophy isn't the best way to avoid getting called out on definitions.)
Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by AOsborn on Saturday January 14, 2017 @10:16PM (#13402096)
A self-centeredness that is unconcerned with other perspectives. Such as considering the views of others incorrect, and discarding.

In comparison with ego-based narcissism that places the perspective of self higher than others.

Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by mcbits on Saturday January 14, 2017 @10:40PM (#13402163)
Hmm, I guess I will file it away with words like "literal" that people use in contradiciton with the original meaning.
Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by noobermin on Saturday January 14, 2017 @09:25PM (#13401978)
It indeed is probably used a synonym of narcissistic and/or selfish.

Solipsism carries a different connotation with it. Narcissism is usually associated with ego and self love while implying someone is "solipsistic" doesn't necessarily imply an overblown ego, assuming they really mean "an adherent of the philosophy," which is probably very seldom the case.

Re:Peter Thiel considering bid for California governor by sean_patel on Saturday January 14, 2017 @09:59PM (#13402059)
> You have to be a reckless fool to be that smart and get into any car without wearing a seatbelt, let alone a McLaren being driven by a daredevil like Musk.

Exactly. I've been calling BS on this whole story and getting downvoted.

How does one sit inside a fast race car, wear no seat belts, car gets wrecked in crash and he comes out -- in his own words -- "without a scratch".

There are no photos or any evidence anywhere in the media that such a crash occurred, or that Theil was involved in it