it's just not worth it. if they are serious about learning to code, step 1 is linux or Mac not windows, am I rite?

"learning to code"

I didn't know specific OSes were required to learn to code.

"am I rite?"

No. Clearly you need a source and I have a feeling you're not going to find one.

Your childish tone may prove to gain you favor with other myopic people, but you sound like the people I wouldn't want as a teammate, don't worry, you'll get some interested people, but they'll be just like you, but maybe you won't notice.

dude, wtf? I've worked all over the industry and hating on windows is just normal. Like everyone uses Macs and a few geeks use linux but no serious programer uses windows. this is just fact. Our biggest competitor https://www.turing.io sells students new macs.

> Like everyone uses Macs and a few geeks use linux but no serious programer uses windows.

This statement is false, you might need to take a look outside of your bubble - it is a big wide world out there.

> dude, wtf? I've worked all over the industry and hating on windows is just normal.

And this makes it ok how?

I haven't 'worked all over the industry' but I have been building web applications for over 15 years using various technologies and on different OS. They all have their warts and they all shine in different ways.

anyone who gets VC funding from a major Silicon Valley fund, uses linux and mysql, and no ms sql server or IIS or any of that _legacy_ stuff. I want to teach people coding so they are ready to go for work major Silicon Valley companies, not legacy it departments. it makes it ok because this is what students needs to be taught to the right jobs. I cannot tell a student it's a good idea to learn C# or MS SQL Server when I fundamentally don't believe it is.

Andrew, nothing to do with windows or the article. But your attitude in the comments.. You seem to have a very close minded and insular view, it disturbs me that someone with such a view is in a position to teach. Perhaps try and think outside of the silicon valley VC startup web-app bubble, otherwise when it pops (which it has in the past) you will be in for quite a shock.

I added this to the page: BTW This is not saying we will not teach you. We still want you to apply. And installing linux on your pc is a great first assignment. Seriously, our teaching style is we through you into a working web company as an intern. If you were to show up for your first day with a windows laptop, your very first assignment would be put linux on it. You will learn a lot doing this. But <a href="https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13399445">this thread on hackernews</a> makes it seem like I hate windows people and don't want to teach them. This is not true. Just complete assignment 1 and you can apply.

I would invite you to consider that for all the deliberately antagonistic statements made about MS SQL and IIS being "legacy", many trendy startups would make the same statement about the MySQL / PHP stack you teach in.

I don't see why taking VC money is the repeatedly stated single measure of success, but I'd be interested in what VC anywhere would look positively on this sort of behaviour.

You could be here selling your product and services, but the opportunity is instead being used to marginalise people.

PHP is legacy, but we teach it as a first server side programming language and then goto rails, then golang. MySQL is not legacy. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12166585 it's still the database used all the time and it's very very good. Because there's no ROI on taking VC money and putting into a startup that's going to use that money on IIS servers. I am selling my product here. Do you want you apply? Free this year.

You must not have worked in VR because most developers I work with are using these legacy windows machines to build stuff with Unity and Unreal.

Sounds like you have just worked in web dev in the US. If I'm wrong apologies and please elucidate me.

I don't see it. What part of Windows makes it hard to learn the languages you offer? MySQL, JS, PHP

well I'm on a Mac. I have no idea how to get past weird window specific errors. And our code when it runs in production will run in linux. so... if all serious developers in the industry use Mac/linux, why even mess with windows? I don't see the + I only see -

> am I rite

Not really.

btw we also don't teach node.js - we think server side js is silly. We teach javascript but as a client side only language.