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Re:Ask HN: Why do coding bootcamps teach Ruby on Rails and J... by edoceo on Saturday January 14, 2017 @01:45AM (#13397265)
Rails was only one of many Patterns of Enterprise Architecture projects. Martin Fowler made a book, then RoR came along, and the environment at the time was "hating" on PHP and ignoring it's PoEA frameworks (Cake) in search of a new shiny. Then it had an uptrend (common s-curve) and some sticking. Now JS is (re) having a similar trend.

Plus ça change I guess.

Also, the students I'm hiring (right out of USA community college) are taught Python and don't know any web-stuff yet.

So, I have to teach server-side PHP (dozens of legacy projects (still using PoEA)) and some HTML and JS.

As long as the know the code basics language syntax is a small hurdle.

Oh, and please SHIP something, anything to demonstrate at interviews.

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Re:Ask HN: Why do coding bootcamps teach Ruby on Rails and J... by xiaoma on Saturday January 14, 2017 @03:03AM (#13397461)
Cake PHP was basically a copy of Rails. When Rails first appeared, it didn't exist.
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Re:Ask HN: Why do coding bootcamps teach Ruby on Rails and J... by edoceo on Saturday January 14, 2017 @12:06PM (#13399309)
According to Wikipedia that is false. CakePHP in April 2005, RoR in December 2005
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Re:Ask HN: Why do coding bootcamps teach Ruby on Rails and J... by xiaoma on Saturday January 14, 2017 @12:20PM (#13399387)
No, that's not true.

The history section of the wikipedia entry on rails says: "Hansson first released Rails as open source in July 2004, but did not share commit rights to the project until February 2005."[1]

The very second sentence of the wikipedia article on CakePHP is: " It follows the model–view–controller (MVC) approach and is written in PHP, modeled after the concepts of Ruby on Rails, and distributed under the MIT License."[2]

Then, in the fourth paragraph: "One of the project's inspirations was Ruby on Rails, using many of its concepts. "

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_on_Rails#History

[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CakePHP

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Re:Ask HN: Why do coding bootcamps teach Ruby on Rails and J... by edoceo on Saturday January 14, 2017 @02:44PM (#13400174)
I stand corrected.
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Re:Ask HN: Why do coding bootcamps teach Ruby on Rails and J... by sopooneo on Saturday January 14, 2017 @05:03PM (#13400829)
PoEA. "Philippine Overseas Employment Administration"?

http://www.poea.gov.ph/

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