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Re:There is no WhatsApp 'backdoor' by FiloSottile on Friday January 13, 2017 @05:35PM (#13395408)
> It could also pass back Bob's answers, and so Alice could have what appears to be a normal conversation - except that Alice only sees single ticks, instead of double blue ticks.

No, it can't do this, because Bob's answers contain the "delivery receipt".

Hence, the attack doesn't work on conversations.

EDIT to reply: messages are sequential and "delivery receipts" are messages, so it would be visible if the attacker dropped some but not all messages. AFAICT.

Re:There is no WhatsApp 'backdoor' by jMyles on Friday January 13, 2017 @05:40PM (#13395451)
> Bob's answers contain the "delivery receipt".

I've not seen any specific claims about the mechanism for the delivery receipt - can you link me to this?

It's not even clear to me that the delivery receipt is signed.

Re:There is no WhatsApp 'backdoor' by akvadrako on Friday January 13, 2017 @05:58PM (#13395551)
It's also not clear that the server must forward all the delivery receipts before it forwards the later replies.

Could it just eat them all?

EDIT: after a quick look at the spec¹, it seems that it supports out-of-order messages, meaning the server could selectively eat receipts.

[1] https://whispersystems.org/docs/specifications/doubleratchet...

Re:There is no WhatsApp 'backdoor' by FabHK on Saturday January 14, 2017 @11:02AM (#13398963)
So, given that, it would seem that a compromised server could pull a whole conversation (if people overlook the single tick mark), as claimed in the article?
Re:There is no WhatsApp 'backdoor' by t0b on Saturday January 14, 2017 @08:58PM (#13401902)
seems like it, yes
Re:There is no WhatsApp 'backdoor' by FabHK on Friday January 13, 2017 @05:43PM (#13395466)
Ah. If that is so (and it's not obvious - clearly you can get delivery or even read receipts without Bob sending an answer), then it would seem that a bad server could only intercept a long monologue, indeed, but not a conversation.

(Greetings from HS F13 :)

Re:There is no WhatsApp 'backdoor' by t0b on Saturday January 14, 2017 @09:01PM (#13401913)
you get "delivered" and "read" notifications before the recipient sends you a text response, so they must be independent.