Re:Simulations suggest Planet Nine may have been a rogue
by mabbo on Friday January 13, 2017 @09:56AM
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> I wonder how long it would be before we could reasonably send a probe to explore a potential rogue.
New Horizons took around a decade to reach Pluto, which is about 50 AU from the sun.
The nearest distance Planet 9 could be is approximately 200 AU. Right now, waiting seems to best bet before sending anything, so that we can hopefully find ways to send probes faster and meanwhile try to better identify its location.
Re:Simulations suggest Planet Nine may have been a rogue
by pavel_lishin on Friday January 13, 2017 @09:58AM
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Oh sure, I'm not suggesting sending probes just to take a look around. But if we do positively identify another planet and its location, sending a probe there would be fascinating. If we could actually land it and do some materials science on a rogue planet, it would basically double our understanding of planetary formation.
Re:Simulations suggest Planet Nine may have been a rogue
by willglynn on Friday January 13, 2017 @10:12AM
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The delta-V requirements for landing on an outer solar system body are… intense. New Horizons flew past Pluto at 14 km/s; in order to land, that relative speed would need to become zero. This concept likely requires new propulsion technology.
Agreed on being fascinating, though.
Re:Simulations suggest Planet Nine may have been a rogue
by T-hawk on Friday January 13, 2017 @04:57PM
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We've already landed on an outer solar system body, Saturn's moon Titan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huygens_(spacecraft)
Titan does have the advantage of a thick atmosphere to allow descent by parachute, and a large parent body to capture the spacecraft into orbit.
Re:Simulations suggest Planet Nine may have been a rogue
by deodorel on Friday January 13, 2017 @04:33PM
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Well if it is a planet 10x the size if earth it might have an atmosphere so we could aerobrake, no?
Re:Simulations suggest Planet Nine may have been a rogue
by mabbo on Friday January 13, 2017 @10:18AM
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It would indeed, but the costs wouldn't make it viable. Spend that same money funding every other effort planetary scientists want to do for years to come. They'll learn far more from those efforts than from the one very expensive probe.
Re:Simulations suggest Planet Nine may have been a rogue
by blincoln on Friday January 13, 2017 @12:16PM
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Would they "learn far more"? I am not a xenogeologist or astrophysicist, but landing a probe on a rogue planet seems like a shortcut to visiting another star system.
Re:Simulations suggest Planet Nine may have been a rogue
by dogma1138 on Friday January 13, 2017 @05:06PM
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We have no idea what is the orbit so the distance doesn't matter there is no way to do a flyby unless we know for sure it's there and can map it's orbit nearly fully otherwise regardless of how fast we are going we'll never get to it :)
Re:Simulations suggest Planet Nine may have been a rogue
by mabbo on Saturday January 14, 2017 @10:15AM
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We actually have a pretty good estimate on the orbit[0], though not necessarily where it is in that orbit (afaik at least). Your point is correct- there's no where to go until we get a fix on it- but your description is technically incorrect.
But the evidence seems kind of sketchy. In their simulations, a rogue was only captured by the Sun 40% of the time. Thats' better than 4%, but still not great. (Or is that actually a really good result? I don't know.)
I wonder how long it would be before we could reasonably send a probe to explore a potential rogue. New Horizons managed a fly-by; how plausible would entering orbit around something that far away be with a reasonable time to get there?