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Re:China has wealth of data on what individuals are doing at... by kijiki on Thursday January 12, 2017 @06:49AM (#13381531)
You have the source code to Signal. You can see exactly how it protects you from government (and other) surveillance.

To be clear: it does better than anything else you can find in an app store.

Re:China has wealth of data on what individuals are doing at... by kuschku on Thursday January 12, 2017 @06:57AM (#13381565)
I can do the same with Telegram.

I can’t verify the source code of the server, or run my own federated server (Moxie doesn’t do federation), and I can’t trust that Moxie’s server doesn’t relay metadata to a government.

> To be clear: it does better than anything else you can find in an app store.

Wrong, proof by counterexample: Conversations.im is also in appstores, is also open source, but, because it’s an XMPP client, I can run my own servers, and federate, and ensure the servers are also secure.