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Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by lucb1e on Thursday January 12, 2017 @06:43AM (#13381506)
> PSA: Telegram is dangerous snake oil

1. They don't claim to do end to end crypto unless you use the secret chats

2. The secret chats still aren't broken. Since 2013, I'd think at least one "crypto expert" (which all said a custom protocol was a bad idea) would have taken the effort to prove it by now.

3. Whatsapp claims to have better encryption, and they probably do, but it's 1) a lot less convenient and 2) unverifiable.

4. Telegram is open source. You can layer your own encryption on top of it if you care, and the clients' implementation is fully verifiable.

PSA: Whatsapp is dangerous snake oil--hidden source code and owned by a company with a terrible track record in terms of privacy.

Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by wtfhacker on Thursday January 12, 2017 @06:56AM (#13381557)
4. Open source, you say? Technically, yes. But in fact they love to abandon github repos while still releasing new versions. Take a look at iOS sources: https://github.com/peter-iakovlev/Telegram/
Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by dbrgn on Thursday January 12, 2017 @07:13AM (#13381637)
The Android source code repo is also several months behind the released version.

They simply do a code dump every few months.

Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by suprfnk on Thursday January 12, 2017 @08:37AM (#13382051)
While not perfect, this is better than nothing at all in my opinion.
Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by CiPHPerCoder on Thursday January 12, 2017 @10:59AM (#13383236)
> 2. The secret chats still aren't broken. Since 2013, I'd think at least one "crypto expert" (which all said a custom protocol was a bad idea) would have taken the effort to prove it by now.

https://eprint.iacr.org/2015/1177.pdf

Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by leshow on Thursday January 12, 2017 @10:21AM (#13382851)
if you dont like whatsapp you can use Signal. it's the open source software that was integrated into whatsapp and is the basis of it's e2e encryption.

both are better options than telegram.

Re:Telegram Desktop reaches version 1.0 by lucb1e on Thursday January 12, 2017 @03:00PM (#13385578)
> if you dont like whatsapp you can use Signal

Yeah that doesn't work at all on my phone because it requires me to use Google Cloud Messaging (Google stuff on my phone is firewalled). You can't just connect to the Signal servers -- or your own for that matter -- and be done with it, you need to use Google servers.