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A comment on The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015).

Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by rektide on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @12:15AM (#13371940)
FWIW this came after a long long period of the DNSOP working group throwing hate and venom on this form of hithertofore non-normative DNS use cases. This was a very hot topic and it seemed like absolutely no progress was going to be made making this happen for a long time due to the DNSOPS wg.

I don't have good citations- would love to gather them again- but it was only after other IETF members started questioning the absurd rejectionist behavior of the DNSOP working group that this changed, and the .onion draft was allowed to get due status.

I can't think of any case in IETF history of a draft being so hotly denied and rejected. Very interesting story, look forward to someone telling it better than I.

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Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by mastax on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @12:49AM (#13372056)
> I don't have good citations- would love to gather them again

Here's a good place to start for anyone interested:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=dnsop&q...

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Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by chatmasta on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @02:13AM (#13372334)
Man, sometimes I wonder if in 20-30 years there will be anyone left who is this passionate about such seemingly obscure topics. The Internet owes much of its success to these people.
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Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by rangibaby on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @06:08AM (#13373134)
Of course. In Japan for example if you can name a topic or activity, no matter how obscure, there will be an otaku (enthusiast) or even a club of otaku for it. What makes you think there will be less interest in obscure topics in the future?
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Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by supergreg on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @07:18AM (#13373412)
And here in the West everything has a subreddit. I can only imagine the future holds even better, resilient ways for obscure topics to gather people like distributed forums and such.
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Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by wereHamster on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @12:34AM (#13372000)
Who are the people in the DNSOP WG? Which companies do they work for? And why do these companies reject the RFC?
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Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by nl on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @04:35AM (#13372803)
Much of the time the people on IETF WGs have been on them for years through multiple companies. There are exceptions, but often this rejectionist-type behavior isn't because of some kind of corporate influence, it is because the new thing doesn't match what these people think should be done.
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Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by canndrew2016 on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @02:23AM (#13372369)
Also, they were originally trying to get several already-in-use psuedo-TLDs recognized including .onion, .i2p, .bit and .gns, but they had to compromise.
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Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by Tepix on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @05:46AM (#13373048)
Is someone working on getting .bit officially recognized by the IETF?
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Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by canndrew2016 on Sunday January 22, 2017 @10:15AM (#13455456)
Not that I know of now. Here's the original RFC that became the RFC which got .onion recognized

http://www.potaroo.net/ietf/idref/draft-grothoff-iesg-specia...

They were trying to get .gns, .zkey, .onion, .exit, .i2p and .bit recognized.

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Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by nerdponx on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @09:28AM (#13374052)
What is .bit?
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Re:The “.onion” Special-Use Domain Name (2015) by bnr on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @09:53AM (#13374257)
https://bit.namecoin.org/
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