20 years as a Debian maintainer

Re:20 years as a Debian maintainer by davexunit on Monday January 09, 2017 @08:44PM (#13361820)

There's no need for two styles of package managers. GNU Guix and Nix can serve both purposes (and more) very well, for example.

I think language-specific package managers are fine for easily sharing source code amongst developers using the same language, but they shouldn't be used in a production system.

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Re:20 years as a Debian maintainer by steveklabnik on Monday January 09, 2017 @08:53PM (#13361869)

I don't necessarily disagree. I think your third sentence still implies two styles, which is contradicting your first.

Nix and Guix don't work on Windows, right? They're still not close to a solution until they do.

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Re:20 years as a Debian maintainer by davexunit on Monday January 09, 2017 @09:03PM (#13361909)

If you're on Windows, then fine use whatever is available. A language specific package manager is about as good as it gets there. There are no good package managers for Windows, and I don't think there can be. I don't even know if you can isolate builds in a container like you can on GNU/Linux. That's a crucial OS feature. Besides, I aim to liberate users, not enslave them, so I develop for the GNU system, not Windows.

The third sentence is not a contradiction. I'm just saying that I can live with people using language-specific package managers, but really they would be better off with a general-purpose one.

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Re:20 years as a Debian maintainer by BuuQu9hu on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @01:00AM (#13372084)

There are several package managers for Windows:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_software_package_manag...

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