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Re:Just how smart is an octopus? by actsasbuffoon on Monday January 09, 2017 @02:57PM (#13359276)
To play devil's advocate, would you accept the same trade? We've provided you with medicine, police protection, and subsidized food and shelter. Does that give me the right to presume that I should be able to eat you?
Re:Just how smart is an octopus? by jacobush on Monday January 09, 2017 @03:11PM (#13359389)
Well, since we were discussing different forms of suffering... They [the state, the company] effectively eat most of my soul and half of my conscious life. In return I get wages and spend them on police protection, medicine etc.
Re:Just how smart is an octopus? by actsasbuffoon on Monday January 09, 2017 @03:27PM (#13359487)
So you're saying it might be moral to eat the unemployed? They don't pay time or money to anyone, yet they still receive some basic level of access to infrastructure. They take more than they give, and that means killing them and eating them could be a viable way to make up the difference.

That's before you get into the fact that we don't give animals a choice in the matter. They can't opt out of our protection and their eventual slaughter. We presume that it's acceptable to agree to that bargain on their behalf.

Like I said, it's a thought experiment, but it's one that leaves me uneasy with the consequences.

Re:Just how smart is an octopus? by uep on Monday January 09, 2017 @03:40PM (#13359584)
A Modest Proposal by Jonathon Swift:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal

Are you familiar with it? Obviously, it's not quite the same, but this was the first thing that came to mind from your comment.

Re:Just how smart is an octopus? by __s on Monday January 09, 2017 @09:14PM (#13361963)
I don't get the beef with cannabilism
Re:Just how smart is an octopus? by VintageCool on Tuesday January 10, 2017 @04:47PM (#13369412)
Well yeah, cannibalism is only beef when cows do it.
Re:Just how smart is an octopus? by jacobush on Wednesday January 11, 2017 @05:49AM (#13373064)
This is how mad cow disease spreads.
Re:Just how smart is an octopus? by Kexoth on Monday January 09, 2017 @11:47PM (#13362661)
It might be a bit off-topic, but this is the idea behind one of the most popular episodes of the Twilight Zone.[0]

[0] - https://youtu.be/6g7vz6c2fog