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Re:Software Developers Should Have Sysadmin Experience by onion2k on Monday January 09, 2017 @05:10AM (#13355276)
How likely is that the sysadmins were told to 'just make it run cheaper, I don't care' by someone higher in the foodchain?

If you're blindly following "orders" to reduce costs and doing things that push up costs elsewhere then you're not doing a good job. A good sysadmin (or the sysadmin's boss) should be able to pull up some numbers and say "Build tasks are being queued for an hour before they run. What impact is that having?", and call a wider meeting that brings together the higher-up-the-foodchain manager, the development team, and anyone else who might be affected. Ideally it'd be the higher up manager who calls that meeting of course, but they may not understand the technical issues.

Re:Software Developers Should Have Sysadmin Experience by davidgerard on Monday January 09, 2017 @08:32AM (#13356179)
I have long thought that one of the most effective workplace sabotages a sysadmin could put into place was to implement management plans without question.
Re:Software Developers Should Have Sysadmin Experience by FLUX-YOU on Monday January 09, 2017 @09:42AM (#13356598)
>If you're blindly following "orders" to reduce costs and doing things that push up costs elsewhere then you're not doing a good job.

This is the responsibility of someone above to know whether or not the orders they give should be given. If they need to ask for information from people below them, fantastic, please help them along.

Please don't fall on the sword for incompetent managers.

Re:Software Developers Should Have Sysadmin Experience by onion2k on Monday January 09, 2017 @11:10AM (#13357347)
This is the responsibility of someone above to know whether or not the orders they give should be given.

Yes, and part of that is the people in their team(s) helping them and understanding that they're fallible and may fail to ask a pertinent question. Equally, the manager needs to be open to updates volunteered by their team without a prompt. Ultimately everyone does better if the entire group works together.