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Re:Visiting a site that uses Disqus when not logged in sends... by StavrosK on Friday January 06, 2017 @04:17PM (#13340281)
What's wrong with Cloudflare?
Re:Visiting a site that uses Disqus when not logged in sends... by Normal_gaussian on Friday January 06, 2017 @07:31PM (#13341613)
They receive a large amount of internet traffic and have the potential ability to fingerprint users and subvert privacy protections. AFAIK they don't do anything malicious, but I don't know they don't.

In fact I would say CloudFlare are better than both GitHub and Facebook, and I am only wary of them because of their position of power and the potential they have (ie. they are a victim of their own success). Both Facebook and GitHub have shown themselves to make political decisions at the expense of their users.

Re:Visiting a site that uses Disqus when not logged in sends... by j_s on Friday January 06, 2017 @05:03PM (#13340703)
Depends on the definition of wrong! CloudFlare is a bit of an HN darling thanks to their employees' active contributions and submitting every technical post on their blog. Free distributed DNS and potential DDoS protection is also a tempting offer.

To privacy-conscious users: CloudFlare is the man-in-the-middle for more and more of the Internet, potentially tracking at Google-like levels.

CloudFlare may: ... Add script to your pages to, for example, add services, Apps, or perform additional performance tracking. (Unfortunately this is opt-out rather than opt-in.)

https://www.cloudflare.com/terms

To Tor users: CloudFlare implements a captcha to protect servers from malicious traffic; the implementation has caused tremendous annoyance in the past and the company may have been slow to address this problem.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7977780 (example complaint, 3 years ago)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11388560 (9 months ago, from cloudflare)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11404770 (the tor project response)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12122268 (6 months ago, additional discussion of tor vs. captcha)

To DDoS victims: CloudFlare protects several DDoS vendors while gaining business protecting DDoS victims, citing free speech.

https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/spreading-the-ddos-disea...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7242377

To CloudFlare customers: CloudFlare has a "target on its back" and has faltered against DDoS in the past, causing outages for all of its customers. AFAIK: It's been a while.

To CloudFlare freeloaders like me: CloudFlare doesn't have much incenctive to protect its free-tier users from DDoS.

Related: Akami stopped helping DDoS'd pro-bono client Brian Krebs. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12561928

Re:Visiting a site that uses Disqus when not logged in sends... by StavrosK on Friday January 06, 2017 @05:50PM (#13341041)
Ah, thank you for the detailed reply. I started using CF more extensively yesterday, due to their free CDN (which is working great), but I agree that their MITMing the internet is worrisome. Maybe I should switch to MaxMind, if it's cheaper than CloudFront.
Re:Visiting a site that uses Disqus when not logged in sends... by j_s on Friday January 06, 2017 @06:14PM (#13341187)
Like Ghostery, it is important to be aware of the cons but I'm still using CloudFlare.

In my book CloudFront easily ranks ahead of had-been "do no evil" Google's irrevocably merging it's entire history on me ex post facto. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12760003