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Re:Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals by saurik on Friday January 06, 2017 @03:51PM (#13340076)
I would say it "gets better": I have the 12" MacBook. I only have a USB-C port. I have an iPhone. I need a USB-C cable to connect my MacBook to my iPhone. So far, so good!

But, I only have one USB-C port. I also want to charge my laptop. So I have a ludicrous dongle from Apple that lets me plug HDMI, USB, and power (over USB-C) at one time.

But, the USB port on the dongle is USB-A, and I need to use the USB-C port to charge, so I would have to use a USB-A cable to connect my iPhone if I am using that dongle.

Yes: I could always use the dongle and the USB-A cable. But that dongle is so annoying to bother with that I actually carry around all three: two cables and the dongle.

Re:Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals by kayoone on Friday January 06, 2017 @09:05PM (#13341978)
I hear this argument a lot but for some reason i never plug my iPhone into my laptop for charging, mainly because its a lot slower than using an outlet. 95% of the time i charge it at night and that's fine for the day. In the rare cases where i need to charge on the go i use an outlet or a small powerbank i always have with me.
Re:Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals by saurik on Saturday January 07, 2017 @01:17AM (#13342651)
I do not understand your comment as I almost never plug my iPhone into my laptop for charging: I plug my iPhone into my laptop as USB is a much faster and more stable transfer conduit than bluetooth (for tethering) and is essentially required for doing most development work.
Re:Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals by kayoone on Saturday January 07, 2017 @06:30AM (#13343551)
Ah ok, i didn't think about the mobile developer usecase, thats a valid point. Tethering works fine for me via Bluetooth but i don't use it very often, so that might be valid too. But then a simple USB-C -> Lightning cable will solve your issues right ?
Re:Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals by saurik on Saturday January 07, 2017 @11:03AM (#13344742)
But then we come back to the premise, as you are literally just stopping at the end if my first paragraph: that works until I need to charge my phone and tether or develop at the same time, something of particular importance as there is no way to connect the phone over USB without it draining the battery of the computer into the phone.

Maybe the understanding gap here is that you don't really use your laptop very much? I use my laptop constantly. I am a developer (as are probably most people on this website), and I own a fancy laptop so I can be mobile: not thinking about the use case of a mobile developer is very strange in the context of a conversation about mobile computers in a large group of developers.

(To be clear, to avoid even more miscommunication: despite the relatively small warts in this setup which seem to violate the standard design process of Apple, I like this computer and purposefully chose it with complete knowledge of what cables it would require. I wish it had a second USB-C port instead of the headphone jack, even though that would cause me to carry around another adapter, as the adapter usage would be less, but I appreciate this was essentialy their beta of USB-C and was not where and when they wanted to start the headphone war.)

Re:Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals by kayoone on Tuesday January 10, 2017 @11:40AM (#13366151)
I use my laptop for work and private 10-12 hours a day and am a developer myself, i just don't develop mobile apps, mostly backend services with python/go/php so i actually hardly connect my phone to the Laptop.

Sorry i actually did not reread your original comment when replying and was assuming this was about the Macbook Pro... If you only have one port there is indeed only the usb-c hub solution which can be annoying.

Re:Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals by sundvor on Saturday January 07, 2017 @04:07AM (#13343114)
I have a 13000mah charger unit with 2.1A out for my Samsung phone etc. Quite neat design; why not just get one of these if you're going to be carrying so much stuff around anyway? Could use it as a bit of spare power for the 12" as well.
Re:Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals by saurik on Saturday January 07, 2017 @11:09AM (#13344779)
I don't understand how that helps: that just replaces the power supply. So now I have my laptop charging from the power brick over USB-C and I still need the dongle to attach the phone at the same time as I charge my laptop. (I am guessing you meant to charge the phone; but not only wasn't the premise--the laptop is the device that is going to need to charge, particularly when you are using the phone over USB--it doesn't come up often as the power block for the laptop is just a 29W USB-C charger, so when it doesn't make sense to charge the phone from the laptop as if the laptop were a battery pack I can plug it directly into the wall.)
Re:Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals by sundvor on Monday January 09, 2017 @03:41PM (#13359591)
Yep I meant to charge the phone; my thoughts were if you are going to be carrying extra stuff to charge the phone then might as well carry parts that extend overall battery life. (And I was thinking of away from wall usage scenarios.)
Re:Apple cuts Tim Cook's pay 15% for missing sales goals by throwaway413 on Friday January 06, 2017 @08:51PM (#13341940)
Wow. Now that is hell.