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Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by Analemma_ on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:03PM (#13331369)
One group of people who could potentially be affected: people who use anti-SAD lighting (especially people building souped-up DIY rigs: https://meaningness.com/metablog/sad-light-led-lux). Those use LEDs and are specifically meant to be very bright and very blue.

Hopefully this turns out not to be a big deal. Having to choose between depression and retina damage would sure suck :/

Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by toomim on Thursday January 05, 2017 @05:21PM (#13331987)
Yes, in fact the blue part of the spectrum is what works the BEST for light therapy, and also happens to be in the danger zone:

http://www.sunnexbiotech.com/therapist/blue%20light%20damage...

This article explains some of the tradeoffs at the specific wavelengths.

Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by upofadown on Thursday January 05, 2017 @05:46PM (#13332157)
Article by a company with vested interest in green light therapy...

The last time I went down the list of references I was personally not convinced, but not my field...

Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by twelvechairs on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:32PM (#13331606)
Most anti-SAD lighting (your average full spectrum bulb not weird things like blue light beds) is not designed for high lumens like this but for broad-spectrum (avoiding spectral 'spikes'). Which should probably be beneficial on this issue
Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by kristofferR on Thursday January 05, 2017 @05:00PM (#13331825)
The Philips goLITE BLU is a very popular "energy lamp" with blue light. http://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/HF3332_60/golite-blu-energy-l...

I couldn't find the exact brightness specifications, but I can testify that it is very bright on the max level.

Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by jganetsk on Thursday January 05, 2017 @06:57PM (#13332665)
Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by sigi45 on Saturday January 07, 2017 @09:09AM (#13344192)
10.000 lux for this version from philips: https://www.fonq.de/p/philips-hf3419-02-up-energy-light-tage...
Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by DrScump on Thursday January 05, 2017 @08:50PM (#13333266)
Is there a light available that does both sunrise simulation and SAD-therapy spectrum lighting?

Using the Philips line for an example, something like a blend of the Philips HF3520 Wake-Up light and the goLITE BLU HF34xx models?

Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by WalterSear on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:14PM (#13331459)
There has to be a happy medium. If we aren't built for stupid amounts of blue light, then it seems counter-intuitive that some people might need that.
Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by r00fus on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:34PM (#13331631)
It could be that we're not built for specular (tight-beam) intensity with lower intensity all around (ie, high contrast).
Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by GenerocUsername on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:17PM (#13331482)
Also, those lights are suggested for skin exposure, not for staring directly into or for illuminating your space... still though, proximity would encourage more harmful interactions.
Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by mordechai9000 on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:23PM (#13331529)
They are not intended strictly for skin exposure. They are marketed and used as a way to expose your eye (brain) to the high light levels that (may be) needed to regulate diurnal activity.
Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by jsjohnst on Thursday January 05, 2017 @05:26PM (#13332026)
The Phillips light specifically has warnings about not looking directly at it, but rather having it in your peripheral vision. It calls out that eye damage can happen if staring directly at the light for prolonged periods.
Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by null000 on Friday January 06, 2017 @04:32AM (#13334967)
The lights that I've looked at (look up liberty vt20 for example) have all suggested that eye contact with the light, peripheral or otherwise, is essential for results.
Re:LEDs may cause retinal toxicity at occupational domestic ... by derefr on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:23PM (#13331531)
I've always wondered you could stimulate the same response during open-brain surgery, by just shining light directly onto the pineal gland.