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Re:Americans Are Putting Billions More Than Usual in Their 4... by eli_gottlieb on Thursday January 05, 2017 @02:49PM (#13330698)
>Good luck with that. You want to bleed out in the street, go for it. Plenty of other first world countries for me to move my family to.

Very few others with low taxes, no universal health-care, no universal pension, and a general fetish for empowering the rural bourgeoisie at everyone else's expense.

Personally, I've got three countries on my short list to apply to, maybe four. But I'm still going to start taking self-defense lessons, because with a neo-fascist government, you people have gone too damn far. You are enabling the most violent, evil elements in society, and that warrants a response.

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Re:Americans Are Putting Billions More Than Usual in Their 4... by eli_gottlieb on Thursday January 05, 2017 @03:47PM (#13331243)
You actually think street gangs are worse than neo-Nazis?
Re:Americans Are Putting Billions More Than Usual in Their 4... by ashark on Thursday January 05, 2017 @04:30PM (#13331591)
To be fair, there are probably a whole lot more gang members than there are neo-Nazis, even if we widen that umbrella to include all racial supremacist groups with significant violent tendencies. Hell, throw in religious extremists for good measure, of all stripes, and I bet non-racially-motivated gangs still commit way more murders in a given year (in the US, which seemed like the context of this exchange).

Not that neo-Nazis aren't awful, obviously.

Re:Americans Are Putting Billions More Than Usual in Their 4... by eli_gottlieb on Thursday January 05, 2017 @05:48PM (#13332183)
You're right, that's a very fair point. Gangs kill more people than Nazis, in the same way that car crashes kill far more than terrorists.

I think if I didn't suspect that neo-Nazis were cozy with the government nowadays (long before this election I heard frightening stories of white supremacists working their way up in police departments and the FBI), I'd have every grounds to dismiss them in favor of worrying about gangs and car crashes.

Re:Americans Are Putting Billions More Than Usual in Their 4... by pcardh0 on Thursday January 05, 2017 @06:38PM (#13332538)
I think Darth Vader is worse than neo-Nazis and equally likely to affect affect my life in any measurable way.

Street gangs have done several killings near where I live, neo-Nazis and Darth Vader, not so much.