News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Heath and Fillekes v. Google Inc. Lawsuit by throwawayforme on Thursday January 05, 2017 @11:46AM (#13328652)
Speaking of growth -- what is Google's hiring position on growth? Would Google hire a "plateaued" senior SWE for a senior SWE role? Or does a candidate have to demonstrate a capacity for growth at all levels?

Internally, I believe we were told that all SWEs were expected to be capable of growing into a level 5 (senior SWE) role, and it was "OK" to not be promoted any higher.

So if somebody was hired in their 20s, it would be reasonable to expect they'd plateau at level 5 by 40, and would have shown most of their growth in their late 20s and early 30s. Would you hire this same person?

Re:Heath and Fillekes v. Google Inc. Lawsuit by DannyBee on Thursday January 05, 2017 @02:45PM (#13330661)
"Would Google hire a "plateaued" senior SWE for a senior SWE role?"

Sure. I've done it. I have hired senior swes who are happy being senior swe's, for a variety of reasons. As long as they can actually maintain a minimum level of performance at that level, SGTM.

"Would you hire this same person?"

Yes.

The bar is basically set at the point they aren't serious overhead to others, can figure out what needs to get done, and get it done.

Anything over that is just gravy.

Re:Heath and Fillekes v. Google Inc. Lawsuit by deskamess on Thursday January 05, 2017 @12:38PM (#13329301)
That is an excellent question and gets to the heart of the matter in my opinion. Would someone already employed in your organization be hirable again if they were not already in there? If they have plateaued internally, should the employee be replaced with someone who has not plateaued yet?
Re:Heath and Fillekes v. Google Inc. Lawsuit by DannyBee on Thursday January 05, 2017 @02:55PM (#13330759)
"If they have plateaued internally, should the employee be replaced with someone who has not plateaued yet?"

There are a variety of opinions on this matter. My personal one is "set the bar at the point they can do good self-directed and mostly self-managed work". If they can get and stay above the bar, awesome, i would never replace them.