I use conemu at work. It's not as awful as some alternatives. I would recommend it, but I can't say that it's a good experience. Maybe I'm doing something wrong here... do you run vim in conemu? For me, it's slow when redrawing lines of text while paging and sometimes renders artifacts in the pane, especially when I vertically split vim.

For a command line interface, I find it to be fairly unstable, too.

I use vim in cmder occasionally. The only way I've been able to use it properly is to disable conemu hooks before I execute it.

Basically, I've defined a function my profile to:

* Save the ConEmuHooks environment variable value * Set it to "Off" * Execute vim * Reset it to the previous value

I alias this command to "vim".

It's not pretty at all, and it caused me to use Sublime or VSCode most of the time, but it worked for me.

More info here: http://conemu.github.io/en/ConEmuEnvironment.html

Why would you do that when gvim is available and is ways better experience then vim ? For the sake of being shell purist ? On remote shell ?

I'll give this a shot, but I'm unclear how the hooks affect vim or other processes-does this address all of my vim+conemu problems? Thank you, in any event.

Have you tried Cygwin vim in mintty?

Also, Emacs has a mode where it'll run as a Cygwin process, but use native win32 widgets. I've found using it to be the most pleasant way of interacting with Windows systems.

When I was at Microsoft, I joked that I wasn't so much running "Windows" as GNU/NT. :-)

Agreed. It's the best terminal emulator I've found on windows. I usually use it for other shells and avoid cmd like the plague but, whatever shell you use, it's a far better app than conhost.exe.

I haven't experienced the instability that others have but I do find its configurability a bit excessive. Somehow I want it to be much simpler but still do everything that it does now. I don't know the way to achieve this but I believe it's possible.

Cmder is basically Conemu plus Clink with nice defaults and useful initial profiles.

I tried it a few times, but it always crashes rather quickly. So it sucks.

Have you tried using vim inside it?

Conemu does a decent job given all the restrictions the Windows platform has, but it's still miles behind a real Linux terminal emulator.

No... there is no need for that on Windows. I use gvim all the time.