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Re:Basic Economy Fares Don't Lower Ticket Prices, They Incre... by coldtea on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @04:29AM (#13307980)
>Literally everything is terrible. The only thing it has going for it is that it makes long distance and overseas travel logistically possible on an acceptable timescale.

Yeah, just that. Merely taking like 7 hours to get from the US to Europe sitting on a chair in the sky and being fed -- as opposed to a trip that used to take months or weeks, people got sick and/or died in the way, and unless you were rich you were getting terrible food (or what you brought yourself) and bunk beds.

>and the basic human dignity of having personal space

Immigrants from Europe towards the US / Ellis Island: http://www.amicidicapracotta.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/...

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Re:Basic Economy Fares Don't Lower Ticket Prices, They Incre... by bkor on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @05:50AM (#13308294)
It used to be worse is not really a good argument. If you use this reasoning the current state is good. Without being able to question the current state, improvements will be limited or none.

Not accepting the current state of things is a good way to improve things. Instead of comparing to the past, compare it to other regions. One commenter compared USA to Europe and said USA is significantly worse, irrespective of how things were loads of years ago.

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Re:Basic Economy Fares Don't Lower Ticket Prices, They Incre... by coldtea on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @06:14AM (#13308382)
>It used to be worse is not really a good argument. If you use this reasoning the current state is good. Without being able to question the current state, improvements will be limited or none.

The other side of this is that without seeing things in perspective we might not appreciate the huge improvements that went into it.

And we might even lament for "first world problems" making mountains out of molehills, or take everything for granted...

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Re:Basic Economy Fares Don't Lower Ticket Prices, They Incre... by mfukar on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @06:17AM (#13308396)
GP is not comparing to pre-airplane travel, why are you?
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Re:Basic Economy Fares Don't Lower Ticket Prices, They Incre... by coldtea on Tuesday January 03, 2017 @08:23AM (#13308897)
For one, because I'm not restricted in my argumentation to what the GP compared.

But, more precisely, because I found the kind GP's lamentations over the top when speaking of modern air travel, and think that it would only be justified if GP was indeed speaking about pre-airplane travel.

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