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Re:Ways scientists use Slack by aub3bhat on Friday December 30, 2016 @02:50AM (#13283160)
An Open client server protocol.

I think Google Wave debacle is a great example of how the advice/vision dished out on HN is disconnected from the reality of consumer experience/expectations.

With Wave Google saw writing on the wall and discontinued Reader and GChat XMPP integration.

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Re:Ways scientists use Slack by paveway on Friday December 30, 2016 @09:40AM (#13284552)
So you're saying Google Wave was an undertaking born directly out of events that happened here on HN?

That's not what I remember about Google Wave. Where are the moments of these facts recorded?

And because that protocol didn't work, they killed off and/or radically altered unrelated chat and RSS products?

I don't feel that's true. Google has implemented other new consumer facing protocols and products since then.

What are the pieces that tie together Wave, Reader and XMPP integration, other than timing and the fact that RSS and XMPP are open standards?

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Re:Ways scientists use Slack by aub3bhat on Friday December 30, 2016 @11:10AM (#13285019)
Google Wave was an undertaking born directly out of advice-given/beliefs-held by people similar to those on HN. The advice being all you need is a decentralized protocol like Email/XMPP and its possible to succeed in Social. Google tried that with Wave and failed spectacularly. As a result it stopped listening-to/caring about what tech-savvy users say and started dismantling other open standards social tools such as Reader (RSS), XMPP etc.
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Re:Ways scientists use Slack by johnchristopher on Friday December 30, 2016 @03:46AM (#13283311)
Could you clarify what the writing on the wall is ?
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Re:Ways scientists use Slack by aub3bhat on Friday December 30, 2016 @11:13AM (#13285044)
That walled garden with better user experience are more successful than open standards where user experience might be difficult to due to issues in changing protocol specifications.
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Re:Ways scientists use Slack by CaptSpify on Friday December 30, 2016 @12:59PM (#13285866)
In the short term. It seems to me that long-term the opposite is true. Have there been any studies to show either way?
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