Re:Who’s on Your 2016 Web Development Thank You List?
by bandrami on Thursday December 29, 2016 @10:13AM
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I feel like the web has been getting significantly worse for about 5 to 6 years now (or, heck, 20 years). I have more of a blame list, personally.
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Re:Who’s on Your 2016 Web Development Thank You List?
by iagooar on Thursday December 29, 2016 @12:02PM
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I feel quite the opposite. More options, better frontend, more and more lightweight, mature backend frameworks.
Re:Who’s on Your 2016 Web Development Thank You List?
by bandrami on Thursday December 29, 2016 @12:23PM
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But does that actually translate into a better user experience for you? It doesn't seem to for me.
Re:Who’s on Your 2016 Web Development Thank You List?
by iagooar on Thursday December 29, 2016 @03:28PM
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Indeed, it doesn't. But I think it's not the tools, it's the businesses who do not understand tech, and the engineers, who are not strong enough to say no to random, tight deadlines, accepting worse quality for the sake of shipping.
Re:Who’s on Your 2016 Web Development Thank You List?
by bandrami on Thursday December 29, 2016 @11:51AM
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It's curious to me how unpopular this sentiment is here. Are there actually people who think the Web provides a better user experience in 2016 than it did in 2006? I'm frankly baffled at that and would love to hear from somebody who feels that way.
Re:Who’s on Your 2016 Web Development Thank You List?
by ng12 on Thursday December 29, 2016 @01:00PM
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People have always made bad, unusable websites. If we wanted to prevent them from doing that we should have never moved away from Gopher.
I write SPAs for a living and a lot of the technologies mentioned in this thread are a godsend. Whenever somebody expresses the above sentiment I feel it's only because they never had to maintain a complicated web app.
Re:Who’s on Your 2016 Web Development Thank You List?
by bandrami on Thursday December 29, 2016 @02:03PM
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they never had to maintain a complicated web app
Correct: we used to write websites that were as simple as it was feasible for them to be, with as few client-side requirements as possible. It's the whole idea that "complicated web apps" are good things that I dislike.
Re:Who’s on Your 2016 Web Development Thank You List?
by ng12 on Thursday December 29, 2016 @03:15PM
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Do you think Facebook could exist if we eschewed building complicated things on the web? The alternative is not building a simpler website, it's building desktop applications. Just because some developers choose the wrong tools for the job doesn't mean the tools aren't necessary.