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Re:Ebikes: I Sing the Ride Electric by cortesoft on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @04:07PM (#13273655)
I think e-bikes are going to have the same issue that scooters and mopeds have (and even bikes too) - safety. If you live in a city, you are going to have to be riding near cars, and it is simply a fact that a collision is much worse when you are on a bike or scooter than when you are in a car. A minor fender bender in a car could be serious injury on a bike or scooter.

Everyone I know who commutes to work on a bike has been in an injury accident, ranging from bad cuts and bruises to broken bones and brain injuries. When you combine the basic lack of courtesy from car drivers, the inability to see bikes compared to cars, and the exposed nature of a bike rider compared to a car, the danger is simply too great for many people (myself included) to take.

Unless we get lots of dedicated bike roads where you never have to interact with cars, I don't see how this problem is solvable. As ebikes get faster and more powerful, the danger is going to increase rather than decrease. This is the same reason I don't ride a motorcycle; while it would be efficient and quicker to commute on one, they are simply too dangerous.

Re:Ebikes: I Sing the Ride Electric by ScottBurson on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @04:50PM (#13273982)
More power is not always more dangerous. When I have to share a lane with cars, I feel much safer doing 28mph on my illegally powerful custom e-bike [0] than I would at 16mph, because my speed is better matched to the cars' and they have less desire to pass me.

But I agree, more dedicated bike lanes would be great.

ETA: Oh! I see California now (as of last Jan. 1) allows 28-mph pedal-controlled bikes under the new "class 3" designation. Unfortunately, my bike still doesn't quite fit in this category, as it's throttle-controlled. Hmm -- it's not clear to me why that distinction is that important.

[0] http://www.nomadcyclespdx.com/electric-bicycle-conversion-sy...

Re:Ebikes: I Sing the Ride Electric by slfnflctd on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @04:26PM (#13273818)
> dedicated bike roads where you never have to interact with cars

We desperately need more of these. They exist in many places, but not nearly enough. They're also far cheaper to build & maintain than regular roads, needing less width or thickness, as well as zero paint, curbs, stop lights or most other things city streets require.

Re:Ebikes: I Sing the Ride Electric by zik on Thursday December 29, 2016 @01:01AM (#13275904)
I commute to work 15km each way on an e-bike and I do almost all of it on bike paths away from cars. It's a very pleasant way to commute. I don't need to use any special "bike roads" - the existing bike path infrastructure in Melbourne (Australia) works for me.
Re:Ebikes: I Sing the Ride Electric by cortesoft on Friday December 30, 2016 @03:22PM (#13287108)
Yes, there are cities where the existing structure works for bikes safely. In my city (Los Angeles), there is simply no way to get anywhere without going on streets with cars.