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Re:Intel Kaby Lake Potentially an Overclocker's Dream, Seen ... by jankotek on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @08:56AM (#13270447)
Kaby Lake is not great for overclocking. You literally have to cut this CPU in half, to make it usable for OC. Better thermal paste between silicon and heatsink, will reduce temperatures by 10°C.

But overclockable i3 Kaby Lake is interesting.

Re:Intel Kaby Lake Potentially an Overclocker's Dream, Seen ... by floatboth on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @10:17AM (#13270986)
Extreme frequency records are often made with many cores turned off e.g. http://hwbot.org/submission/2294034_andreyang_cpu_frequency_...

But interestingly, the absolute first place winner had all 8 cores enabled http://hwbot.org/submission/2615355_the_stilt_cpu_frequency_...

You obviously don't have to cut the cores in half for daily usable overclocking. My quad Skylake runs 4.5GHz with all four cores enabled.

Re:Intel Kaby Lake Potentially an Overclocker's Dream, Seen ... by jankotek on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @10:29AM (#13271072)
I was not very precise. I actually meant heat-spreader instead of heat-sink.

Kaby Lake has bad thermal conductivity between silicone and heat-spreader (metal top of CPU). If you crack-open the CPU and replace thermal paste, it will reduce temperature under load significantly.

It is common problem for Intel CPUs since Ivy Bridge. i7 are affected. Extreme version is soldered and does not have this issue.

Re:Intel Kaby Lake Potentially an Overclocker's Dream, Seen ... by floatboth on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @10:39AM (#13271144)
I know about delidding.

I thought this:

> You literally have to cut this CPU in half, to make it usable for OC.

referred to turning off the cores, not delidding :D

But you don't need to do either to "make it usable for OC". Just get a good cooler.

Re:Intel Kaby Lake Potentially an Overclocker's Dream, Seen ... by jankotek on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @10:52AM (#13271235)
Good cooler wont help, the bottleneck will be in CPU.
Re:Intel Kaby Lake Potentially an Overclocker's Dream, Seen ... by floatboth on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @10:56AM (#13271275)
I'm running 4.5GHz @ 1.4V on an i5-6400, doesn't get hotter than 60 degrees under full load with a watercooler.
Re:Intel Kaby Lake Potentially an Overclocker's Dream, Seen ... by jankotek on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @11:34AM (#13271600)
60 degrees is not much, not really reaching full potential of that chip.

I had i7 2600K at 5.0 GHzx. Water cooled, 90 degrees under full load. It worked for 5 years 24/7, until motherboard died last year, CPU still works.

It is simple to set higher frequency, but that does not mean CPU is actually faster. Power management is very tricky. Sometimes it will put idle instructions, or turbo boost would not work.

You have to run benchmark for several hours to verify CPU is actually faster.

Re:Intel Kaby Lake Potentially an Overclocker's Dream, Seen ... by SnowProblem on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @10:58AM (#13271295)
I remember overclocking 12 years ago and upgrading the cooler and thermal paste was standard practice. Is something different this time?
Re:Intel Kaby Lake Potentially an Overclocker's Dream, Seen ... by joncrane on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @12:05PM (#13271829)
He means the thermal paste between the chip itself and the metal top (aka heatspreader). The metal top is the part the user-supplied thermal paste goes onto, and the cooler block sticks onto.

There's also another thermal paste sandwich UNDER that that you'd have to do some very delicate surgery to modify.

Re:Intel Kaby Lake Potentially an Overclocker's Dream, Seen ... by SnowProblem on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @12:32PM (#13272043)
Ah, that's very interesting. Thanks.