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Re:Obama close to announcing measures to punish Russia for e... by andrei_says_ on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @12:29AM (#13268645)
Punish Russia??

How is this achievable? Russia is not a tiny third world country. It's a huge nth world one. Its oligarchy/government couldn't care less about any additional inconvenience applied to the general population. People are cynical beyond the touch point of any such measures.

Also, how about attempt to identify and correct the results of the interference?

This punishment business sounds like wagging the dog -- not doing anything that matters, just populistic noise.

Apologies if this sounds harsh, had to get it off my chest.

Re:Obama close to announcing measures to punish Russia for e... by SonicSoul on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @08:16AM (#13270254)
Also, how about attempt to identify and correct the results of the interference?

not sure if you read the article but they (allegedly) hacked into pentagon and released information to wikileaks that painted the democratic nominee in a bad light which was then cycled over and over in the news. don't think this can be corrected

Re:Obama close to announcing measures to punish Russia for e... by belorn on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @09:29AM (#13270664)
To break down that statement, is it the illegal aspect (which would be a case about international law) thats relevant, or is the impact of the news and their role in picking representing leaders for a nation.

For international law, we have had in the last year quite many hacking scandals involving the NSA and a common comment here on HN is that such activity is legal. If the country from where the hack originate has laws that permits it, then many view that as making every computer a fair target.

That leaves the interference aspect, and we saw quite a few examples during the election. There were a 7 years old non-published camera recordings which was used, without the consent of the recorded person. Is that form of interference permissible during an election?

Then we had news articles about allegations of crimes for which no court or judge have seen. Is publishing anonymous statement of such allegations a form of interference, and if so should it be legal?

Or should it only be legal if the entity that do the interference is located in the nation that holds an election? If so, what about international news agencies, many which originated in the US but is now, often for tax reason, located elsewhere. Should a news agency located in Ireland be permitted to interfere with the US election?

Re:Obama close to announcing measures to punish Russia for e... by crdoconnor on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @09:26AM (#13270640)
I doubt punishing Russia is actually their goal. I think they just want to promote the idea that Russia caused Trump. It's a conspiracy theory that very conveniently exculpates the current crop of DNC insiders whose incompetence and arrogance managed to get him elected.
Re:Obama close to announcing measures to punish Russia for e... by toomuchtodo on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @09:48PM (#13275359)
It's an easier pill for the DNC to swallow than that their candidate was terrible. Russia is just convenient to use. Maybe not do things that if documented in emails and released cause you to lose the election for the highest office in the land?
Re:Obama close to announcing measures to punish Russia for e... by walrus1066 on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @04:55AM (#13269566)
Well, if common people who are struggling, get continually reminded of the obscene wealth the oligarchs and Putin have accumulated at their expense, they may not be so complacent about how the country is run.
Re:Obama close to announcing measures to punish Russia for e... by zigzigzag on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @07:43AM (#13270124)
Just like what happened in Cuba, North Korea, Iraq and Iran then?

Sanctions achieve nothing except making the US hated around the world.

Re:Obama close to announcing measures to punish Russia for e... by rahrahrah on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @05:17AM (#13269638)
Same thing is true about the USA. I read about this recently, something like the 14 billionaires that Trump put in his cabinet have as much wealth as 50% of Americans.
Re:Obama close to announcing measures to punish Russia for e... by Terr_ on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @04:10AM (#13269405)
Would you feel better if the word was "retaliate" instead?

It sounds like your main complaint is that "punish" has... an ownership or parental connotation?

Re:Obama close to announcing measures to punish Russia for e... by andrei_says_ on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @12:08PM (#13271843)
The only possible outcome of punishment/retaliation is escalation in this case.

Doesn't make me feel better.