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Re:Police seek Amazon Echo data in murder case by supergeek133 on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @01:02PM (#13264721)
You're making quite a few assumptions.

1) The device is storing any amount of locally recorded audio. So far evidence says no.

2) Amazon would OTA all echos to upload everything it hears. So far evidence says this hasn't happened. It also likely won't because IMO security people monitor these devices more than anything else on the planet. Some I believe for good reasons, the others just want to play gotcha.

3) If 1 and 2 are true, Amazon keeps the data for an extended period of time.

Can we please not tinfoil hat the hell out of these devices like we do the rest of IoT sometimes?

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Re:Police seek Amazon Echo data in murder case by jdiez17 on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @01:20PM (#13264834)
(I think) the argument your parent is making is that Amazon could easily send a software update to a specific Echo to make it record everything it hears.
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Re:Police seek Amazon Echo data in murder case by supergeek133 on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @01:55PM (#13265174)
If at the request of the government, yeah that's a problem unless there is some kind of warrant, right?

I'm all for people being suspicious, but the intent of this was to say "the cops are hoping it might catch something" as in it was accidentally triggered.

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Re:Police seek Amazon Echo data in murder case by rhizome on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @05:38PM (#13266840)
If at the request of the government, yeah that's a problem unless there is some kind of warrant, right?

Nope: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_doctrine

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Re:Police seek Amazon Echo data in murder case by supergeek133 on Wednesday December 28, 2016 @11:12AM (#13271408)
Yes and that's a problem with law not catching up with technology. Unfortunately for many people in the country, other social/financial issues are more important to them.
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Re:Police seek Amazon Echo data in murder case by johnsmith21006 on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @03:44PM (#13266023)
Or any smartphone, tablet, laptop, etc. This is the world we live in.
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Re:Police seek Amazon Echo data in murder case by visarga on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @05:53PM (#13266948)
Or send audio surveillance data only when it has a legitimate excuse to communicate with Amazon, like, when you're streaming music or making a query.
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Re:Police seek Amazon Echo data in murder case by politician on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @01:18PM (#13264818)
I've responded to your position elsewhere:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13264644

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