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Re:No tipping means better business by legohead on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @02:24AM (#13261786)
Went to a revolving sushi bar tonight. Everything was automated. They even had a touchpad where you can put in orders (like miso ramen soup), which get delivered by a belt. The only thing the servers did was sit us and bring us water. We asked them to replace a leaking soy sauce container and they never did.

We tipped 0$ -- there was essentially no service. I kinda felt bad, but talking it over with my wife, I couldn't really find a reason to tip.

Re:No tipping means better business by surrealvortex on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @02:38AM (#13261828)
I also don't understand tipping at food carts. Customers stand in a line to pay and get their food, and are also expected to tip (either via Square or through tip jars).

Edit: the expectation is generally implicit, and while standing in line, I can't help but notice that most customers hit the minimum tip percentage on Square, which is usually 15%

Re:No tipping means better business by mavelikara on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @05:53AM (#13262456)
Unless you get seated and have the food delivered by the server to your table, there is no expectation of tip - no matter what Square says.
Re:No tipping means better business by lpr22 on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @02:55AM (#13261888)
I never hit that minimum thing. I'll give $1 every once in a while because they're friendly and the town is so expensive, but the food prices already definitely reflect that, and there is no service, so /shrug
Re:No tipping means better business by zeroer on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @04:29AM (#13262192)
IIRC with a few extra clicks on Square you can find a menu that will give you a "no tip" option. It's definitely hidden on purpose.
Re:No tipping means better business by idunno246 on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @02:07PM (#13265289)
ive never seen a square display without a no tip option, and I'm pretty sure the restaurant is who decides what options are there
Re:No tipping means better business by zeroer on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @03:15PM (#13265855)
You're right that the restaurant probably decides. The option has always been there when I looked. When it doesn't, I'll refuse to pay.
Re:No tipping means better business by treyfitty on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @07:40AM (#13262751)
For what it's worth, I sometimes hit the minimum tip percentage solely because a colleague at work is with me. The "impulse" to hit that button is greater if that colleague is my boss. But, even when I'm surrounded by strangers, I still feel this need to hit the tip button.

Ultimately, I think right now the social expectation of tipping in this situation is in limbo- whether you do or don't, it's ok.

Re:No tipping means better business by micaksica on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @02:32AM (#13261806)
Were you actually requested to tip? If so, it seems strange. When I've gone to many kaiten-zushi places it is usually stated that you shouldn't tip at all (in Japan you don't). There used to be one like that downtown Berkeley off Durant that closed a few years back.
Re:No tipping means better business by greedo on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @10:09AM (#13263518)
The donut shop I buy from put a new card reader system in place (probably to support chip cards). The UI requires you to enter something for a tip before you can proceed. It irritates me so much that I have stopped going as frequently. It's as if my waiter at a restaurant would hover over my table watching what I put on the tip line of the dinner bill. Infuriating dark pattern.
Re:No tipping means better business by dexterdog on Tuesday December 27, 2016 @07:10AM (#13262667)
There was more than no service. If they work on tips then you stiffed them even thought they didn't do much.