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Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by xkcd-sucks on Sunday December 25, 2016 @05:16PM (#13255666)
Hmm, sounds a bit like taxi licenses and hotel regulations
Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by praptak on Sunday December 25, 2016 @05:20PM (#13255687)
The stakes are higher. "Building codes are written in blood."
Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by prodigal_erik on Sunday December 25, 2016 @05:28PM (#13255712)
Not all of them are. When you can't install a waterless toilet without hiring a licensed plumber, that's just corruption.
Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by _asummers on Sunday December 25, 2016 @05:35PM (#13255750)
Where is that code, out of curiosity?
Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by prodigal_erik on Sunday December 25, 2016 @06:42PM (#13256045)
All I know is what the manufacturer said about unexpected resistance to changing building codes, and the blatant make-work compromise they ended up with:

https://reason.com/blog/2010/06/24/plumbers-unions-vs-waterl...

Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by stuaxo on Sunday December 25, 2016 @06:19PM (#13255952)
Surely just a legacy law?
Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by wyager on Sunday December 25, 2016 @07:28PM (#13256221)
The productivity costs of excessive regulation are also written in blood, but it's a slightly more abstract relationship, so most people aren't capable of making the connection.

"Oh my god, this building collapsed during an earthquake and killed a family! Alert the national press!"

Versus

"The expected per-capita cost of this new electrical wiring legislation over the next 50 years is $12/person/year, which according to our consumption models means that the average person will spend $2.50 fewer a year on health insurance, which will result in a 0.00003% higher annual medical casualty rate. Now, moving onto expected effects on nutrition..."

Even though the regulatory costs kill a lot more people, it's not as immediate or violent, so most people don't care.

Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by dwaltrip on Sunday December 25, 2016 @09:13PM (#13256539)
Your point is a good one, although it not at all obvious or self-evident that the regulatory burden is more "costly" on society than that of poorly built structures. Your post doesn't provide any evidence of that. I would guess that the general consensus holds the opposite to be true, at least for building codes in the U.S. today. It is certainly a difficult question to analyze in any kind of numeric detail.
Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by cgag on Sunday December 25, 2016 @06:47PM (#13256057)
The costs of regulations are equally well measured in blood though it's a lot less visible than when it comes from say a building collapsing.
Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by drcross on Sunday December 25, 2016 @05:30PM (#13255723)
Stop being overly dramatic. People need to realise that there is a happy gray area wherein regulation is most efficient. When I get into a neighbors shower I want to be nearly certain I won't be electrocuted but also the flip side of heavy regulation is the money wasted on inefficiencies when adhering to the numerous European pillow manufacturing standards, for example.
Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by colanderman on Sunday December 25, 2016 @05:44PM (#13255797)
While I agree with your point, the "numerous Eurpoean pillow manufacturing standards" meme is based on a fabricated claim: https://youtu.be/iAgKHSNqxa8?t=273
Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by ivanhoe on Sunday December 25, 2016 @06:06PM (#13255890)
Many of those rules are important, but lots of them are really insignificant from the safety viewpoint, just a pure bureaucracy. Is it really important that fire extinguishers in the hallways of buildings have to be mounted on the wall at exact prescribed height? If you just let them sit on the floor you can get yourself fined, although they will function exactly the same regardless of the position.
Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by ocdtrekkie on Sunday December 25, 2016 @06:23PM (#13255974)
I can think of a lot of reasons it'd be unsafe to place fire extinguishers on the floor. Floods could corrode the casing, children could reach the trigger components of a device that emits a suffocating chemical foam, etc.

It's often easy to suggest the number of regulations are unnecessary, but most came from some sort of logic or reason... In many cases in response to a tragedy that occurred before.

Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by stuaxo on Sunday December 25, 2016 @06:21PM (#13255962)
Sure, however they will always be in the right place if you fix them to the wall.

If they are on the floor they could easily be moved or be a tripping Hazard.

Re:'All I wanted to do is build a house' (2010) by tfigment on Sunday December 25, 2016 @05:23PM (#13255698)