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Re:‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency ... by scintill76 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @05:35PM (#13224885)
As a fairly active Mormon... I'm curious what you see as the difference between the leaders and the people. I would think most of the Mormons you know support most of the things you find distasteful in the leaders.

(Edit: I don't mean to say the nice Mormons are secretly as horrible as you think the leaders are, although that's one possible conclusion. Just trying to figure out how a group of supposedly-vile leaders so consistently produces supposedly-great people.)

Re:‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency ... by zeroer on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @05:52PM (#13225061)
Well, I've never had interactions with the leadership, or at least not anyone more senior that holding some sort of small leadership position in a local temple. My experience with "church leadership" is just from reading the news or leaks. And since it's news, it's pretty much all negative.

And with the Mormons I meet in real life I try pretty hard not to get into theological or controversial topics. This is the same way I'd treat anybody else in real life, so maybe the Mormons I meet hold some horrific views that would disgust me? All the better that I don't get into that with acquaintances.

I'm just trying to comment on this very weird phenomenon that Mormons are unusually nice when compared to other groups of people. I don't know why this is. I'm speaking of my own personal experience here, but I know I'm not the only one who perceives this.

Re:‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency ... by henrikschroder on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @06:28PM (#13225354)
Here's a leaked video of a briefing for the Q15 about Chelsea Manning:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpVh24_wGoY

Yeah, let's focus on whether Chelsea Manning is gay or not. Really important. Very enlightened.

Re:‘MormonWikileaks’ website launched, seeking transparency ... by cookiecaper on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @08:49PM (#13226171)
The jump cuts in that video are clear. The person who leaked these very likely had access to years and years of daily briefings (which is what these are, they're not discussions/deliberations as some try to claim), and yet was only able to select 15-ish (don't remember exactly how many) short, highly-edited clips to try to concoct a controversy. It didn't work because no one is surprised that a group of 80+-year-old men who preach that homosexuality is sinful are uncomfortable with homosexuality.

This is really the MO of these bitter ex-Mormon groups. They are constantly desperately trying to kick up controversies that just don't have any meat to them, purely out of personal spite. They then express surprise that people without a grudge are uninterested and they have to make their own fake Wikileaks because the real WL knows these standard internal documents are of no public interest.