Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
by brennen on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @03:57PM
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I really haven't seen much evidence that media professionals expressing shock at, for example, Brexit and Trump's election are engaged in some strong form of deception. There's a reasonable set of critiques about media incentives and behavior here, but I think this is a case where cynicism of this kind can obscure observable reality: The majority of people really didn't expect these outcomes.
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Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
by reality_czech on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @07:25PM
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The point is that the media were in a bubble where everyone they talked to had the same views as themselves.
Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
by ilugaslifg on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @08:09PM
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That is absolutely a true thing you can say about the media and the election. They came to believe that Trump would not win the election, by being in a bubble where everyone they talked to had the same views as themselves.
But that is a totally different point than, and is actually logically incompatible with, the assertion that they privately believed that Trump _would_ win the election, but expressed otherwise to the public.
Re:Getting Rid of Comments on Vice.com
by reality_czech on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @10:24PM
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OK, that's fair. I think that most of the media believed that Clinton would win. It was actually quite creepy seeing all the glowing tributes to her life, and upcoming presidency. I still have a special commemorative edition of Newsweek from November 8, 2016, celebrating "Hillary Clinton's Historic Journey to the White House." I think I am going to keep this for a while.