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Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by dbg31415 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @11:06AM (#13221035)
> It would cost me $3000 to replace it with a computer that is not significantly more powerful, has a smaller screen and less I/O functionality, and would be incompatible with my audio interface unless I daisy-chain multiple adapters to get Firewire. Fuck that, as long as possible.

To be fair, with the new Macs you still get to daisy chain adapters...

Here's the thing, nobody can take away how great the Macs we have now were when they came out. The fact that it was so well built and so powerful that you're still using it after 5 years speaks exactly to what we loved about them.

But the new MBPs aren't the same. They're just as expensive as they always were, but they don't have forward-looking specs. Unlike the old ones, we don't see the new ones being machines we can keep around for the next 5 years.

I've got a 2013 MBP and it's got virtually identical specs as the new 2016s. (Used similarly upgraded from base units both times -- with Apple care this cost ~$3,300 then and would cost ~$3,300 now.)

--- 2013 MBP

16 GB RAM

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M with 2GB memory

2.3 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7

512 GB SSD

Apple Build Quality

vs

--- 2016 MBP ($2,800)

http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/macbook-pro?product=MLH42L...

16 GB RAM

Radeon Pro 455 with 2GB memory

2.7 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7

512 GB SSD

Apple Build Quality

vs

--- 2016 Razer Blade ($2,200)

http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-blade-gtx970m

16 GB RAM

NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 970M with 6GB memory

2.6GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7

512 GB SSD

Razer Build Quality

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by quickben on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @12:28PM (#13221873)
If you can build your own, and don't want to stick to the apple ecosystem; the 4 core intel cpu + 970 gfx starts around a thousand: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/VhyP8K

If you can wait until February, AMD Zen is coming out, so no matter which camp (amd/intel) you are in, all prices should go down for the given level of performance.

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by zeusk on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @02:29PM (#13223085)
--- 2016 Razer Blade ($2,099)

16 GB System Memory (DDR4, 2133 MHz)

NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1060 (6GB GDDR5 VRAM)

Intel® Core i7-6700HQ Quad-Core Processor (2.6GHz / 3.5GHz)

256GB (PCIe M.2) options for 512/1024

14.0-in. IGZO QHD+, 3200x1800, capacitive multi-touch

http://www.razerzone.com/store/razer-blade#QHD+%20-%20256GB

What you linked to isn't 2016 Blade.

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by gurkendoktor on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @04:33PM (#13224252)
> 14.0-in. IGZO QHD+, 3200x1800

16:9 is kinda crappy, but 3200x1800 is resolution that works nicely at @2x. Seems better than both the MBP (too low for @2x) and 4K (too high for @2x, too low for @3x).

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by dbg31415 on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @02:42PM (#13223238)
Good catch. I linked the 2015 model.
Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by Keyframe on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @04:51PM (#13224433)
That's not $2,099. It's 2,999.99€

What's the battery and noise/heat level like on those?

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by xanderstrike on Tuesday December 20, 2016 @05:42PM (#13224953)
> What's the battery and noise/heat level like on those?

If you have to ask this question, a gaming laptop is not for you.

Re:How Apple Alienated Mac Loyalists by Keyframe on Wednesday December 21, 2016 @08:50AM (#13229029)
That answers the question then. A portable computer, not a laptop.