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Re:How is NSA breaking so much crypto? (2015) by dom0 on Saturday December 17, 2016 @05:20AM (#13200083)
> believing any algorithm can keep a secret from nation state adversaries is laughable.

Well, yeah, it is.

Defence against (crypto-buzzword) state-level actors (SLAs) doesn't start with gpg and FDE, rather, with operational security, or, even better, not being a worthwhile target in the first place (if your briefcase of secret documents is already on CNN there is no need to infiltrate your stuff beyond gaining assurance that you don't have another briefcase - which is the thing you want to proof as publicly as possible to convince your highly paranoid adversary)

There is that saying "never trust a computer you can't throw out the window". Computers are networked. You're trusting a network of computers, even if you don't use "networked functionality". Can you throw the internet out the window? Probably not! Hence, don't trust computers. People who trust computers to keep their secrets are foolish¹ (Trottel), so just don't.

¹ Notice how governments²³ trust computers to keep their secrets safe, and how admirably and totally that failed. Ask yourself, what wasn't leaked by Snowden? Stuff that wasn't in any computer in the first place!

² Or how celebrities trusted computers to keep their dickpics safe.

³ Or how companies trusted computers to keep their business secrets, well, uh, secret.

To make my point another way: Computers are for disseminating information. If secrecy is more important than dissemination, then don't use a computer.

Re:How is NSA breaking so much crypto? (2015) by kakarot on Saturday December 17, 2016 @09:55AM (#13200911)
Umm... I think the number of things not leaked by Snowden far surpasses the number of things leaked by him, and the things he didn't leak weren't not leaked because they weren't on a computer... they just weren't in the files he accessed.
Re:How is NSA breaking so much crypto? (2015) by nickthemagicman on Saturday December 17, 2016 @02:06PM (#13201917)
Bad example but his point is overall pretty solid imo.
Re:How is NSA breaking so much crypto? (2015) by fapjacks on Saturday December 17, 2016 @06:02PM (#13203245)
I think the NSA definitely seemed to hit a point where they calmed down. At first there was a palpable sense of "O NOE" as the NSA scrambled to discover what exactly had been stolen. And then just as suddenly, it seemed to go away. I don't think the really shocking stuff was exfil'ed by Snowden. I won't speculate what wasn't revealed, except that I think it's telling that the NSA has been asking for the ability to award high-level mathematics commendations to its workers without explaining why they deserve the award. Not much in Snowden's documents seem to fit that particular bill. The NSA isn't going to want to award the Fields Medal to someone for 0day exploits, weakening crypto infrastructure, or friggin USB hacks.
Re:How is NSA breaking so much crypto? (2015) by dmfdmf on Sunday December 18, 2016 @01:07AM (#13204597)
<At first there was a palpable sense of "O NOE" as the NSA scrambled to discover what exactly had been stolen. And then just as suddenly, it seemed to go away.>

I think a big part of them not commenting on the issue was that they didn't know what Snowden had and they got caught in a number of lies early on.