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Re:I have no side code projects to show by jknoepfler on Friday December 16, 2016 @08:57PM (#13198671)
On the other hand, I'm a skilled dev with only a smattering of python experience, but if you asked me this question I'd have no idea and wouldn't think twice about looking up the python docs for both. What are you actually asking?

P.s. I don't believe anyone actually fails fizz buzz.

Re:I have no side code projects to show by ajmurmann on Friday December 16, 2016 @10:57PM (#13199107)
I suspect failing fizz buzz typically is caused by nervousness. I've one gotten so nervous in an interview that I'm certain I couldn't have implemented fizz buzz either at that time. I've also seen it on interviewees. As the interviewer it also sucks because you can't be sure it's nervousness.
Re:I have no side code projects to show by IndianAstronaut on Friday December 16, 2016 @11:52PM (#13199281)
If someone is the type of person that gets nervous in an interview, these are the people that really need to do good side projects.
Re:I have no side code projects to show by allengeorge on Friday December 16, 2016 @10:35PM (#13199034)
Not true. People fail all the time. It's shockingly more common than I imagined possible.
Re:I have no side code projects to show by xyzzy_plugh on Friday December 16, 2016 @09:14PM (#13198747)
People fail fizz buzz all the time.
Re:I have no side code projects to show by jknoepfler on Friday December 16, 2016 @09:24PM (#13198787)
I don't believe that. I'd really like a 21st century study showing that devs with > 3 years of experience fail fizz buzz, and that failure is predictive of being a bad developer (and not being a shitty interviewer)
Re:I have no side code projects to show by framebit on Friday December 16, 2016 @11:38PM (#13199234)
Yes, of course a dev with > 3 years experience should be able to fizz-buzz in their sleep! That's the point!

It's not devs with > 3 years experience or even > 6 months. failing fizzbuzz. It's people _pretending_ to be devs with > 3 years experience. Or folks who started in programming years ago and drifted so far they can't get back to nuts and bolts. Or people who know the principles but can't express them. Or any number of other cases.

Like other folks have posted here in response, I've seen some really sad fizz buzzes in my day, often from people who had no business being near a computer let alone interviewing for a tech job, but somehow landed a phone screen.

And let's never forget the best/worst fizz-buzz ever: http://thedailywtf.com/articles/The-Fizz-Buzz-from-Outer-Spa...

Re:I have no side code projects to show by OJFord on Friday December 16, 2016 @10:44PM (#13199054)
Bear in mind that everyone here on HN is here because they're interested to learn about advancements in technology (and matters of broader interest) - it's too easy to mistake this little echo chamber for the entirety of the talent market.

I often read people say they'd be "insulted" if asked to do fizz-buzz, or would "walk out". I think that's an over-reaction - fair enough they need to make sure you're not useless and lying on your CV. As long as there's a more interesting follow-up question, I don't see the harm.

Re:I have no side code projects to show by hafriedlander on Friday December 16, 2016 @09:40PM (#13198851)
If you don't believe Jeff Atwood, I'm not sure why you'd believe me based just on my anecdata, but at a previous job I gave a simple filtering programming task to interviewees (not exactly fizz buzz, but very close. Single loop, multiple 10-line solutions possible).

Out of 10, only 1 solved it well, 2-3 solved it acceptably (only edge case bugs), the rest never solved it, or had obvious bugs or code that would never pass peer review.

Of course, I could just be a shitty interviewer, but I always had a (changing) peer present during interviews, and I hope we were an honest enough company that they'd tell me if they thought I was.

Re:I have no side code projects to show by jwatte on Friday December 16, 2016 @10:57PM (#13199106)
Yes, this is typical.
Re:I have no side code projects to show by brobinson on Friday December 16, 2016 @11:11PM (#13199150)
In 2013, I interviewed someone who had allegedly been working for a few years as a support engineer writing Ruby (using the "watir" gem) who could not even write the loop part of Fizzbuzz. They went completely silent on the call when I pasted the Fizzbuzz requirements into a shared code editor we were both viewing. After a few moments and my gentle prodding, they admitted they didn't even know how to begin writing the loop, so I thanked them for their time, wished them luck, and ended the call.
Re:I have no side code projects to show by Sacho on Saturday December 17, 2016 @12:05AM (#13199321)
You don't have to believe it - check out the comments in Jeff Atwood's post, where many people assert they can't believe people can't solve FizzBuzz, look they've solved it right here, and post their incorrect solutions.
Re:I have no side code projects to show by HeyLaughingBoy on Friday December 16, 2016 @09:59PM (#13198929)
I've never given a fizzbuzz test, but I can assure you that many people fail to write a simple for... loop to traverse an mxn square. I've seen it so many times that I have absolutely no problem believing that the same people would fail fizzbuzz.

You really don't realize how bad candidates can be until after you've interviewed dozens of them.

Re:I have no side code projects to show by mrep on Saturday December 17, 2016 @12:08AM (#13199334)
One of my teammates had a phone screen with a guy who didn't know what prime numbers were...
Re:I have no side code projects to show by jodrellblank on Saturday December 17, 2016 @12:28AM (#13199397)
You can't blame them for not keeping up with the latest Amazon offerings.
Re:I have no side code projects to show by peteretep on Saturday December 17, 2016 @02:07AM (#13199696)
I've also never seen anyone fail FizzBuzz in the wild; I feel like even the barest of 20m phone prescreenings should be able to avoid that...

I was asked for my second job ever - on the phone - for commands that would list files in a directory, change directory, and create a symbolic link. I guess I've started doing that kind of prescreen now too

Re:I have no side code projects to show by dyadic on Saturday December 17, 2016 @12:37AM (#13199433)
Once I failed a programming test on factorial. I was younger and less experienced in interviews than I am now, nerves got the better of me.

I implemented the thing, but with plus in place of multiplication. Before that, I realised I was struggling and asked the interviewer whether it was + or *, that was probably the moment he failed me.