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Re:American Firms Want to Keep Older Workers a Bit Longer by analog31 on Friday December 16, 2016 @08:01PM (#13198358)
Knowledge transfer should be baked into the day-to-day culture of work, not something desperately scrambled for during someone's last week. Those few companies with meaningful training and mentoring programs know this.

In my observation, it's very few companies. Also, I don't think it's as easy as just saying it should happen. For one thing, hiring has changed. A lot of tech workers from my generation tended to be fairly multi-disciplinary, but as a company matures, they tend to hire from standardized skill sets such as the mainstream branches of engineering.

Case in point, I'm 52, and I was hired kinda by accident because I had a connection and was in the right place at the right time. Nobody ever asked for my skill set. My knowledge is based on having a pretty good understanding of optics, electronics, mechanics, math, computation, and so forth. But we haven't ever deliberately hired anybody like that, so there's nobody whom I can even transfer my knowledge to.

My job involves solving a lot of really weird problems under pressure, such as when a production line goes down and nobody knows why. I kind of thrive on it, plus it's a niche that I was able to carve out, to make myself employable without a mainstream engineering degree. But I can't think of why somebody would even want to learn my job.

The best thing to do with us old guys, is let us keep working, to do the stuff that you don't want to burden the bright young kids with.

Here we go again with the "shortage of workers". In one article it's tech workers. Here it's GenX workers. A "shortage" of a good is pretty meaningless if you don't mention the price you're offering to pay for that good.

Indeed. A labor shortage is the same as wage inflation. Show me the money.

Re:American Firms Want to Keep Older Workers a Bit Longer by Spooky23 on Saturday December 17, 2016 @12:39AM (#13199445)
Great point. I'm in my thirties, my boss when I started was a mainframe systems programmer for years. They had critical business process on an unsupported platform and this guy and a colleague wrote a pretty decent TCP/IP stack for it. They also were experts in some random business processes that were ridiculously important. They were jack of all trades. When I got there they had moved into monitoring and management and were reasonably capable NT and HPUX performance guys.

Now there's literally a platoon of BAs, java programmers and others maintaining the successor system.

Re:American Firms Want to Keep Older Workers a Bit Longer by analog31 on Saturday December 17, 2016 @09:30AM (#13200823)
Now thinking about it a bit, there may be a sort of survivor bias thing going on. The "older tech workers" are largely the ones who stayed in tech, rather than going into management. We're the ones who managed to keep ourselves competitive, and survive the politics, for a few decades.
Re:American Firms Want to Keep Older Workers a Bit Longer by Spooky23 on Saturday December 17, 2016 @12:27PM (#13201489)
Absolutely.

You see it with old timer SEs from companies like IBM and HP and even Apple... these are folks that love solving problems and are adept at it. They are also always fighting management who is completely clueless.

One guy from one of those companies figured out a huge problem and probably generated $30M of sales. They laid him off in a random culling of the herd.

The only place you see those types of folks getting developed now are in cloud services where some of the cast off junior SEs from the big companies are doing similar things there.