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Re:The Idea of Lisp by pjlegato on Friday December 16, 2016 @05:25PM (#13197451)
Quite right. That's why Clojure was invented.

Clojure is a modern Lisp with the explicit goal of being a practical and pragmatic Lisp intended for getting real-world software engineering tasks done, not just a grand walled garden with beautiful and pure ideas but without standard libraries for stuff like, say, "opening a TCP socket".

Re:The Idea of Lisp by kazinator on Friday December 16, 2016 @08:47PM (#13198618)
CL has no ISO standard library for opening a TCP socket.

Clojure has no ISO standard library for opening a TCP socket.

I don't see the difference.

Usocket: Common Lisp socket library:

https://common-lisp.net/project/usocket/#implementations

Walled garden? I can make a native executable for Windows using any one of several Lisp implementations. No framework or VM or whatever required.

Clojure saves some people from programming the JVM in Java; good for them.