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Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by DiabloD3 on Thursday December 15, 2016 @01:19PM (#13186760)
As a side note, it seems a lot of ADD/ADHD sufferers should be diagnosed with (instead of or also including) ODD or an executive functioning disorder.

Our brains, largely, are badly designed. And it sucks, especially with the HN crowd, we'd all be ten times more productive if we didn't all suffer from the same shit.

Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by mjburgess on Thursday December 15, 2016 @01:34PM (#13186894)
For readers, ODD == Oppositional Defiant Disorder.

Basically ADHD is just a symptom checklist, what causes it also causes a whole variety of other stuff not included in the same checklist for somewhat @political" reasons.

In particular ODD means being reflexively and exaggeratedly defiant and hostile to authority. Possibly because its associated with external demands that are inherently difficult to meet (because of the ADHD part) and so quite tortuous and frustrating.

What's remarkable is that the oppositional characteriststs associated wiith ADHD are significantly helped by stimulants. Which doesnt make any sense, if the oppositionality were some personality characteristic. It arises due to the very same cognative impairments.

Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by derefr on Friday December 16, 2016 @03:56AM (#13191988)
> causes a whole variety of other stuff not included in the same checklist for somewhat @political" reasons

Like what?

I have ADHD. I tend to notice that other people I know, who also have ADHD, tend to have a lot of other "not normally associated with ADHD" things in common with me. But I don't know which are true correlations, and which are just pareidolia on my part.

Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by 234dd57d2c8db on Thursday December 15, 2016 @02:56PM (#13187700)
Stimulants work because ADHD brains have whacked out dopamine regulation. Stimulants help smooth out the peaks and valleys associated with ADHD. Hyperfocus = overstimulated by dopamine, inattentiveness = understimulated. Taking a stimulate provides a consistent baseline level to help reduce the extremes.
Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by warfangle on Thursday December 15, 2016 @04:34PM (#13188647)
Stimulants work because they activate the underperforming portions of the prefrontal cortex related to attention management.

Chalking it up to dopamine is a gross simplification.

Adderal, for example, stimulates the release / reduces the re-uptake of dopamine, norepinephrine, epinephrine, serotonin, histamine, and CART peptides.

Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by wu-ikkyu on Thursday December 15, 2016 @04:04PM (#13188369)
This is the first time I've heard of ODD. To be honest it seems almost comical that defiance of authority has its own medical diagnosis as a disorder.

According to ODD, every pioneer in human rights (I.e. Susan Anthony, Thomas Jefferson, MLK, Jesus) should be regarded as mentally ill and drugged into submission.

Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by komali2 on Thursday December 15, 2016 @05:23PM (#13189141)
The symptoms of the disease don't necessarily translate to having the disease. Not everyone that is sad has clinical depression, not everyone that is obese suffers from glandular disorders. Etc.
Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by dilemma on Friday December 16, 2016 @06:14AM (#13192463)
Not every problem a guy has with his girlfriend is necessarily caused by the capitalist mode of production.
Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by eon1 on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:13PM (#13189581)
It's not a generic "defiance to authority", as I understand it's more like anyone trying to exert any kind of authority over you is bound to generate a kneejerk negative reaction, big issue or small, reasonable or not. Could be a parent, supervisor, partner, teacher, cop, etc. ODD is not related to an actual battle against your oppressors.
Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by warfangle on Thursday December 15, 2016 @04:33PM (#13188636)
ADHD /is/ classified as an executive dysfunction (specifically, in regulating attention).

Autism spectrum, schizophrenia, depression, and parkinson's disease are other well known disorders classified as an executive dysfunction.

ODD ("a pattern of angry/irritable mood, argumentative/defiant behavior, or vindictiveness lasting at least six months") is not at all the same thing.

Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by imranq on Thursday December 15, 2016 @06:33PM (#13189734)
Badly designed for what? Coding CRUD apps?
Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by darpa_escapee on Friday December 16, 2016 @08:26AM (#13193045)
This is a real question, not rhetorical: Does ADHD exist in similar numbers in societies that are less sedentary?