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Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by Alex3917 on Thursday December 15, 2016 @12:48PM (#13186481)
> I have seen these things really work though.

The argument (based on some large scale trials and other data) is that after 2+ years, those on SSRIs are worse off than they would have been without them.

The issue is that by taking SSRIs, you may be getting a few weeks of negligible benefits in exchange for a lifetime of being disabled, when otherwise you'd have been better after a few months using other interventions.

Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by falcolas on Thursday December 15, 2016 @01:03PM (#13186611)
> are worse off than they would have been without them

With, or without continuing monitored dosage to account for the body's corrections towards what it perceives as equilibrium? If without a continued dosage, is this before or after a "withdrawl" phase?

Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by Alex3917 on Thursday December 15, 2016 @01:11PM (#13186689)
> With, or without continuing monitored dosage to account for the body's corrections towards what it perceives as equilibrium?

The efficacy of SSRIs isn't dose dependent. And the the monoamine hypothesis is a long disproven myth.

Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by pjc50 on Friday December 16, 2016 @05:16AM (#13192249)
> The efficacy of SSRIs isn't dose dependent

This is rather surprising, given that most pharmaceuticals are, and contradicted by the experience of people I've known who've been prescribed them and advised to taper withdrawal - which is then experienced as reducing effectiveness.

Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by Broken_Hippo on Thursday December 15, 2016 @03:35PM (#13188114)
That means there is more to figure out, not that people shouldn't be taking them. It could be that a combination of therapy and SSRI's are the answer, or they only work with certain blood chemistry and we develop a test for such a thing so we'll know.

Someone with a major mental illness might just do worse after a couple of years, despite medication. Some folks with bi-polar disorder truly can't work, despite the medications, for example. They'd definitely be doing "worse" after starting their medications, some of which might easily include SSRIs, but it isn't really because they started medications.

None of this means we shouldn't use them, just use them responsibly with a bit more medical oversight. After all, for some people these really do help.

Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by Leon on Thursday December 15, 2016 @03:31PM (#13188070)
Can you cite this?
Re:Psychiatrists Must Face Possibility That Medications Hurt... by Alex3917 on Thursday December 15, 2016 @04:33PM (#13188635)
The book the article is about...