News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Filmmakers Ask Nikon and Canon to Sell Encrypted Cameras by lb1lf on Thursday December 15, 2016 @09:44AM (#13184856)
-I'd respectfully suggest that your idea of a strawman differs from mine.

A strawman would be me saying something like "This is a good idea, but it is obvious it needs quantum cryptography to succeed, and as we all know, that is hardly commercially available in a form factor you could incorporate in a digital camera, hence the idea will never fly." (Yes, this is taken almost ad absurdum - but, hey, this is the Internet, after all. :))

Me arguing that this is a good idea which could be even better at no disadvantage to Poitras et al and for negligible extra development, however, is hardly a strawman.

Then again, I may be misunderstanding you altogether; English is my third language and I am struggling to understand what you mean when you suggest that I (paraphrased) say "This is too limited because it doesn't help people taking the camera"

Even Poitras' suggestion is intended to help once someone has taken the camera; you do not need encryption or anything per se as long as the camera is in your possession. (Assuming it is offline!) - It is when someone - be it the US Govt, a competitor, your friendly neighbourhood grunt, some guerilla in a disagreeable part of the world has taken it that limiting access to the images/footage is necessary.

Re:Filmmakers Ask Nikon and Canon to Sell Encrypted Cameras by mSparks on Friday December 16, 2016 @02:31AM (#13191707)
->This is a good idea, but it is obvious it needs quantum cryptography to succeed

not a million miles from

->I think you'd still only have a solution which is workable against a very limited set of adversaries - namely, the ones who play by the rules, more or less.

which is exactly why i said "a bit strawman"

perhaps where we differ is you think encryption only keeps information safe from those who play by the rules?

Re:Filmmakers Ask Nikon and Canon to Sell Encrypted Cameras by lb1lf on Friday December 16, 2016 @03:44AM (#13191935)
> perhaps where we differ is you think encryption only keeps information safe from those who play by the rules?

-No, that is not what I think and neither is it what I've been trying to bring across.

Let's just put it on the account of poor communication skills (at either end).